BMD civil registration in Galicia & Poland, FHL lookups #poland #galicia #ukraine #records


Family and DNA
 

Hello all. I've read here & in other genealogy groups that people often didn't declare birth/marriage/divorce/death with the civil government in Galicia & Poland etc. because the pricing was prohibitive, so all info was registered only religiously. Something like a marriage might be registered well afterwards for a paperwork reason -- impending illness/emigration for instance, explaining why I've see marriages of people in their 60s (who had kids in their 20s). And this is why birth records will say that a child is "illegitimate" because parents not civilly married. 

I have a few questions about this.

  • What was the cost of such a registration in Galicia & Congress Poland? 
  • Was it the same situation in "Russia"/Ukraine?
  • How did these costs compare to people's "net wealth" (or whatever you wanna call it)?
I found the 1880 birth in Krakow of a cousin's husband on JRI-Poland & after I got lost looking on the new Polish site, I tried familysearch, using the film # listed on JRIP. The film wasn't available for me to page through at home, so I requested the record via the new FHL lookup service. I got back not just a copy of the page but also a close-up (both JPGs) as well as a complete word-for-word translation (Word doc), amazing!!

In the nice explanatory notes after the translation it says "his parents were married only religiously, in a synagogue, not in the civil records office. The custom to avoid taxes when having many children." That last sentence surprised me -- after all, future kid births has nothing to do with marriage registration, so that's obviously wrong. But I assume this was just confused with the question of birth registration costs -- was it almost impossible in the first place (even for just one kid), or was it just super expensive?

I want to send a response thanking the service but also correcting this comment, but first i need to edumacate myself!

regards,

Juliana Berland (France)

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Galicia: BADER, BADIAN, FELDMANN, FREIDENHEIM/FREUDENHEIM, GERTLER, VIENER * Germany: ADELSDORFER, BÄR/BAER, EPSTEINN, HAUSSMAN, ISSAK, MEYER, MOSES, ROSENSTEIN * Romania: HORNSTEIN * Russia: AMBURG, BENIN/BERLAND, BERKOVICH/BERKOWITZ, EPSTEIN, GELBURD/GOLDBERG/GAYLBURD/GILBERT


Odeda Zlotnick
 

Thanks for the helpful info about the FHL lookup service!

How did these costs compare to people's "net wealth" (or whatever you wanna call it)?
Most of our ancestors in Galicia and the Pale of Settlement were so poor that I would wanna call it abject poverty.  Some of them barely had enough money to feed their children let alone pay for any regisration....



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Odeda Zlotnick
Jerusalem, Israel.