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Decipher names on New York Passenger List? #names #records
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amitch1066@...
Hi All,
First time posting, so I hope I get it right! I recently had a major breakthrough when I found the New York passenger list for my 3rd great Aunt, whose name was lost. She emigrated with her husband and 3 other relatives who also eluded me for a long time. The problem I'm having is that I can't decipher who they are visiting. Lines 26-28. Is anyone able to read the names of the nephews in column 16? In addition, between rows 28 and 29, there are numbers which seem to have been added 8/31/38, 38 years after my relatives arrived. I am unfamiliar with passenger record keeping. Would anyone know what they mean? I've attached the full record, as well as a screenshot of the names. Thank you in advance! Amy Mitchell
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Sally Bruckheimer
M. Gerta
Isak Stroch Uncle M. Bach or Rach The 1938 date is when he was naturalized, and they annotated the passenger list. If you find the naturalization, it will have a Certificate of Arrival. Sally Bruckheimer Princeton, NJ "I can't decipher who they are visiting...In addition, between rows 28 and 29, there are numbers"
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Diane Jacobs
Here is what I could see:
Nephew M. Gerber
Nephew J. Or Y. Gerber
Nephew Frank Hitch
Uncle M. Bach
All res 147 Rivington st.
The date and numbers, indicate when this person applied for citizenship and received
A certificate of arrival in order to complete the NA Petition process. They were most likely naturalized several years After 1938.
Diane Jacobs
Somerset NJ
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From: amitch1066@...
Date: 10/10/20 12:31 AM (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: [JewishGen.org] Decipher names on New York Passenger List? #records #names
First time posting, so I hope I get it right! I recently had a major breakthrough when I found the New York passenger list for my 3rd great Aunt, whose name was lost. She emigrated with her husband and 3 other relatives who also eluded me for a long time. The problem I'm having is that I can't decipher who they are visiting. Lines 26-28. Is anyone able to read the names of the nephews in column 16? In addition, between rows 28 and 29, there are numbers which seem to have been added 8/31/38, 38 years after my relatives arrived. I am unfamiliar with passenger record keeping. Would anyone know what they mean? I've attached the full record, as well as a screenshot of the names. Thank you in advance! Amy Mitchell Attachments: -- Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey
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Valentin Lupu
The names seem to be M. Gerber and Isak Stroch.
Valentin Lupu ISRAEL
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The Becker's Email
The name looks like M. Gerber. The address is 20 Ridge St. There is a Ridge St. in NYC.
The 1900 census for Ridge St. shows a lot of families living at this address. The closest to Gerber is a Samuel Garber household. There is no one in this household w/ a first name beginning w/ "M". Attached is the link to the 1900 census pages on familysearch.org for this address. 20 Ridge St. starts at the bottom of the page and continues on the following page(s). The census was enumerated 2 June and the family on the manifest did not arrive until 24 Aug.; so there may have been some changes in the occupants at this address. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6QGS-D52?i=4&cc=1325221&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMSVC-DNY Regarding the notation between rows 28 and 29, that is a code for citizenship info that was added later. This info was placed in the occupation column. Attached is the jewishgen.org link to an explanation of the codes in this column. ( The info file has other sections for other columns.) https://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/Manifests/occ/ Johanna Becker Newport, RI
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Laurie Sosna
If I'm reading it right, line 27 & 28 (Peisach and Vigor Kelwasser) are going to their nephew M. Gerber at 20 Ridge St.
Line 29 & 30 (Israel & Chane Bach) are going to their nephew Isak Stroch and uncle M. Bach at Rivington St. 147 147 Rivington St. should be in the 1900 Census district Manhattan 277 https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7602/images/4114600_00652?ssrc=&backlabel=Return I scanned through the pages, but was unable to locate the house number. Some of Rivington is also in Manhattan 224 https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7602/images/4114594_00149?ssrc=&backlabel=Return Laurie Sosna San Francisco, CA
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Sherri Bobish
Amy, Looks like Israel BACH submitted naturalization papers in Maryland in 1938. Ancestry.com has the papers, including a photo of Israel BACH. Israel gives a home address in Baltimore, but says that his wife and children live in St. Louis. Regards, Sherri Bobish
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