Edward Drexler from Hungary #hungary


Tony
 

Edward Drexler
I am trying to find the history and origins of my grandfather on my fathers side. My mothers side is very well documented and my wife and I were able even to find my great grandfathers grave and a few brothers marriage certificates in the town hall of Kaposvar in eastern Hungary, but that was because one of the sons, Jacob, immigrated to the USA in 1862 and eventually made his way to New York where he started an optical company and later wrote a letter to his children describing his life, many trials and failures and eventual success. 

 

On my fathers side, Edward Drexler seems to have appeared out of nowhere ran a laundry/clothes dying place, married my grandmother, had several children and eventually left them all and (I think) committed suicide in about 1928. He made a naturalization declaration in 1926, stating that he was born in 1874 in Sulin Hungary (that is now Slovakia and I think Sulin is now called Saros and is in what was the far northeast of Hungary). On the taped history that my father made he gave his birth town name as what sounds like “aparious” or “flareous” (not Sulin) - I have no idea what that is, possibly a village name. His naturalization declaration states that he arrived in the USA in 1899 in Baltimore from Bremen Germany on the ship Kaiser Wilhelm Der Grosse on 1 October 1899. In talks with my sister she says that our grandfather went to Pittsburgh where people from Austria/Hungary worked as laborers. Maybe he grew up in Pittsburg which is why he didn’t speak Hungarian. In his taped history he says that his father, Edward, came to the US in about 1890 and went to Pittsburg (maybe those dates are wrong). Edward Drexler had three siblings, Henry, Cecilia, and Esther. He married Anna Goldberg in 1899. Anna Goldberg was born in 1882/3 in Hungary, immigrated to the US in 1899. Her father was Mors Goldberg from Hungary, and her mother was also from Hungary. The family included Joseph, Adolf, Arthur, Henry, Anna (who married Edward Drexler), Antoinette and Rose-Kiah(?? - maybe wrong spelling) 

 

All of this seems very confused and I do not know how I can find the right birth area/place and how he got the to the usa where he went - I do know he ended up in Brooklyn and lived in Flatbush - and that my father had an unhappy childhood but won a scholarship to Cornell University, left home and never returned but met his future wife there and became almost a part of her family.

 

Anything you can do to help me track down my fathers father and the rest of his family I would greatly appreciate. 

 

Regards

 

Tony Drexler

 


Judy Petersen
 

Dear Tony,
     My best guesses are as follows:

1) You are correct; Sulin is a town in the Presov region of northern Slovakia.
2) "Aparious" is probably a corruption of "Eperies", the German name for the town of Eperjes, now Presov, the administrative seat of Presov region.
3) "Flareous" may be a further corruption of "Fragopolis", the Latin version of the same town (Presov).
4) On the other hand, I checked JewishGen's All Hungary Database, and it's possible the town name may be Szulin, which is in Szepes county in Hungary, and for which there are a number of Drechsler/Drexler entries in JewishGen. 
5) In your search, remember to consider Hungarian/Yiddish versions of their Americanized names, though there are no rules and their original name could have been anything.  But in general,  Anna may be Netti; Edward may be Ede or Eduard, Henry may have been Chaim, or Henrik, or Heinrich, or Hanoch, Mor may have been Moses or Moric or Moritz, Cecilia may have been Tzilli or Cilli or Czaeczilia, etc. 
6) It sounds like you are working mostly off of oral histories, which is great, but you need to verify that information with documentation--death certificates, naturalizations, census records, etc.  There are a number of websites with searchable databases.  If you can tell us where you have already searched, we can make more focused suggestions for you. 
7) In your search, try "sideways" research.  If you can't find any documentation for Edward, try to find as much documentation as you can for his siblings. Their records may give you the information you need.

Best of luck,

Judy Petersen


Sherri Bobish
 

Hi Tony,

Here is a  September 28, 1928 article from The Brooklyn Daily Eagle.  Edward DREXLER attempted suicide and was rescued and taken to the hospital.  Article is in column four, second article from top.
file:///C:/Users/sherr/Downloads/EdwardDrexler.pdf

And, here is his December 22, 1928 NYC death certificate.  He did commit suicide, and by the same manner (gas) that he had tried in September.
https://a860-historicalvitalrecords.nyc.gov/view/8731674

Edward's father's name is given as Samuel, his mother as Martha HEERENBERG or NEERENBERG (hard to read.)

Edward DREXLER is at Mt. Carmel Cem.
http://www.mountcarmelcemetery.com/page.asp?id=hours
DREXLER, EDWARD
Section: 1
Block: E
Map: 17
Path:
Lot:
Line: 5
Society: HEINRICH HEINE LODGE
Grave: 1

Here is a photo of Edward's stone from JewishData.com
https://jewishdata.com/secure/view.php?id=170566


Sherri Bobish
 

Hello again Tony,

On Ancestry.com there is a 1922 U.S. passport application for a Harry DREXLER, born in Sulin in 1869.  Harry's father is listed as Solomon.  Harry's wife is Helene.

In 1924 when Harry extended his passport he gives his town of birth as Szuliny, Czechoslovakia. 

Since Judy posted "Szulin, which is in Szepes county," I would suggest doing soundex/ phonetic searches on surname DREXLER in Szulin at 
https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/all/

This page about Szepes county mentions:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szepes_County
"The county became part of Czechoslovakia, apart from a very small area now in Poland, after World War I, and is now part of Slovakia (and Poland)."


paveanyu@...
 

Hi Mr Drexler                                                                            22nd May 2022

I do not know, if Mr  Drexler  Bela--( Bela Drexler)
whom I happen to know personally as a child in Hungary
is a descendant of your Drexler Family or not.?

Mr Drexler Bela--was a Melamed, a Rabbi--? clean shaven after the war
Travelling around the  villages of the  'Tokaj Valley--and 
Teaching Hebrew--Alef-Beis etc--to children who had no alternative but to attend --mixed cultural schools.

To my knowledge: Mr Drexler Bela passed away in --around--1980--in Hungary
and was/is buried in MISKOLC Jewish Cemetery.

Mr Drexler Bela--May have had/has  a son.

Best wishes 
Veronika Pachtinger
London UK.