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File of Berdychev surnames 1897 census #ukraine


Paul Chirlin
 

On the Ukrainian archive material recently discussed I worked my way to the Berdychev 1897 census page https://uk.wikisource.org/wiki/%D0%90%D1%80%D1%85%D1%96%D0%B2%D0%B8/%D0%94%D0%90%D0%9A%D0%9E/384/15

Just above the table of material is this clickable line: A poarkusnyy pointer of Jewish surnames. Cases 3-81. Author Boris Finkelstein
which opens a page with a listing of all the names appearing on pages 3 to 81 of something but I cannot figure out the material from which it was extracted.  As Chazen appears several times on the listing I'd love to find the original file that was used.  

Paul Chirlin


Family and DNA
 

Paul & everyone else -- that Boris Finkelstein file has lists of Jewish names for various "cases" (each book is a case) in the fond 384 opus 15. The names are divided by case, which is the 3-81 you see (1st page shows names in case 3-5 for instance). Some of these index files have page numbers, this one unfortunately does not.

If you see the name you want listed by BF under 3, you have to go to the file at https://uk.wikisource.org/wiki/Архіви/ДАКО/384/15/3 then look through that PDF for the name.

Hope this helps!
Juliana Berland


On 10/7/2020 17:24, Paul Chirlin wrote:
On the Ukrainian archive material recently discussed I worked my way to the Berdychev 1897 census page https://uk.wikisource.org/wiki/%D0%90%D1%80%D1%85%D1%96%D0%B2%D0%B8/%D0%94%D0%90%D0%9A%D0%9E/384/15

Just above the table of material is this clickable line: A poarkusnyy pointer of Jewish surnames. Cases 3-81. Author Boris Finkelstein
which opens a page with a listing of all the names appearing on pages 3 to 81 of something but I cannot figure out the material from which it was extracted.  As Chazen appears several times on the listing I'd love to find the original file that was used.  

Paul Chirlin
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Juliana Berland (France)

/// Russia/Ukraine: BENIN / BERLAND Czernigow; Romny, Poltava > (Paris>) Chicago AMBURG / BERKOWITZ / EPSTEIN Odessa, Kherson, Poltava > (Paris >) Buffalo NY; Chicago GELBURD / GAYLBURD / GOLDBERG / GILBERT Vinnitsya; Nemyriv; Priluki Staraya; Podolia gub. > Philadelphia; Atlantic City; Milwaukee /// Galicia/Poland/Ukraine: BADER Felsztyn (Skelivka) > Philadelphia BADIAN Komarno? FELDMA(N)N Wolanka / Boryslaw > Philadelphia FREIDENHEIM Stryj, Drohobycz, etc. GERTLER Komarno, Wolanka, Stryj, Drohobycz, etc. WEINER/WIENER ? /// Germany: ADELSDORFER  BÄR / BAER Buttenhausen > mid-W US, esp. near Vandenburgh Co, IN. EPSTEI(N)N Röhrenfurth/Melsungen, Sachsenhausen, Guxhagen > Luxembourg; Amsterdam; MW US, esp. near Vandenburgh Co, IN HAUSSMAN Heidenheim? ISAAK Fellheim? MEYER Hannover > Aurora, IN. MOSES Gotte(rs?n?)heim, Sachsenhausen, Röhrenfurth. ROSENSTEIN Stuttgart; Elberfeld? > Philadelphia, Lancaster, PA.

 


Paul Chirlin
 

Thank you.  That makes sense.  Now I understand that to find Chazen in case 25 I need to examine the 319 pages in that case.  I am willing to do that.  However, it would be helpful if I knew which column to look at for the name.  Unfortunately the images are not sharp enough to be able to read the column headings to enable me to type the letters into an online translator.  I hope someone would inform me what are the column headings as shown on this typical page:
which can be found in its original here:
https://uk.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:%D0%94%D0%90%D0%9A%D0%9E_384-15-25._1897_%D1%80%D1%96%D0%BA._%D0%9B%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%83_%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8F,_%D0%BC._%D0%91%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%87%D1%96%D0%B2,_3_%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B4%D1%96%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D1%8F,_2_%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%85%D1%83%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0_%D0%B4%D1%96%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D1%8F.pdf&page=4

Paul


Anita Hasson
 

Dear Paul,

Glad for you, for finding the file of interest.
Trying to find my file of interest ( the Surname Kagan in Berdichev cenzus - in "Delo" ("case") 6 ) - I get nowhere.
Could you please explain me, what did I do wrong?

Thanks,
Anita Hasson (Kagan),
Tel-Aviv, Israel.

File: DAKO 384-15-6. 1897. Census letters, Berdychiv, 3 census precinct, 2 counting precinct.pdf

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Bella Tseytlin
 


mvayser@...
 

Paul,
The headers are explained on the Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire_Census

Regards,
Mike Vayser