Identifying Ancestral Town #galicia


Lisa Steinberg
 

A friend has asked me to help in finding the three sisters of his grandfather that stayed behind in Europe.
His grandfather and three brothers did come to America.
The family name is Ditchek in as many variety of spellings as you can imagine.
The problem I am hoping you can help me with is identifying the ancestral town in Europe.
In my friend's memory, the family always referred to the town as Martynow.
In 1909 the first cousin to arrive said he was from Bolschowzie, Galicia.
In 1911 a brother to the grandfather said he was from Martynow, Galicia.
In 1915 census, it was Austria.
In 1920 census, it was Odessa, Russia.
In 1930 census, it was Poland.
In 2021, I am very confused! I know nothing of Galicia. Neither Martynow nor Bolschowzie show up on the JewishGen townfinder.
Deeply appreciative of your wisdom and guidance in advance.

Lisa Steinberg, Riverdale The Bronx NY

SHATZMAN (Medzhybizh, Kamieniets Podolsk, Ukraine/Russia)

ROSENTHAL (Parchomowzy (Parhomowce/Parkhomivtsi), Khmelnytskyi, Khmelnytskyi, Ukraine)

SEGAL (Neshchiz, Kovel, Wolin, Ukraine)

ACKERMAN (Brichany, Khotin, Bessarabia) And Yedintz

KUPERMAN/COOPERMAN (Brichany, Khotin, Bessarabia) And Yedintz

CHAYET (Pasvalys, Kovno, Lithuania)

MEYEROWITZ (Kovno, Lithuania)

 


Mark Halpern
 

Hi Lisa:

The towns you mention are Bolszowce and Martynow. Before 1901, both of these towns Jews registered their vital events in nearby Bursztyn. JRI-Poland has indexed many of the records of Bursztyn and other nearby towns. Here is the search that you and your friend should duplicate.


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Searching for Surname (phonetically like) : DITCHEK and
Town (phonetically like) : MARTYNOW
in Stanisławów Wojewodztwo

Number of Matching Records: 19
(Note: Marriage and Divorce records count as 1)

Run on Thu, 30 Sep 2021 20:48:29 -0600


(Note only records associated with a specific location will be plotted)

 

The results of this search shows 19 records. Maybe three of them are the sister left behind. Also, searching for DITCHEK and town of Bolszowce results in 127 matching entries. Most of the entries for surname phonetically like DITCHEK are from these two towns. Looks like your friend should be able to build an extensive family tree from this JRI-Poland data. 

JRI-Poland also has indexed 20th Century marriage and death records for Bolszowce and Bursztyn that are not yet online. If interested, contact me privately at mark@....

Best regards,
Mark Halpern
JRI-Poland Stanislawow Area Coordinator

On 2021-09-30 8:46 pm, Lisa Steinberg wrote:

A friend has asked me to help in finding the three sisters of his grandfather that stayed behind in Europe.
His grandfather and three brothers did come to America.
The family name is Ditchek in as many variety of spellings as you can imagine.
The problem I am hoping you can help me with is identifying the ancestral town in Europe.
In my friend's memory, the family always referred to the town as Martynow.
In 1909 the first cousin to arrive said he was from Bolschowzie, Galicia.
In 1911 a brother to the grandfather said he was from Martynow, Galicia.
In 1915 census, it was Austria.
In 1920 census, it was Odessa, Russia.
In 1930 census, it was Poland.
In 2021, I am very confused! I know nothing of Galicia. Neither Martynow nor Bolschowzie show up on the JewishGen townfinder.
Deeply appreciative of your wisdom and guidance in advance.

Lisa Steinberg, Riverdale The Bronx NY

SHATZMAN (Medzhybizh, Kamieniets Podolsk, Ukraine/Russia)

ROSENTHAL (Parchomowzy (Parhomowce/Parkhomivtsi), Khmelnytskyi, Khmelnytskyi, Ukraine)

SEGAL (Neshchiz, Kovel, Wolin, Ukraine)

ACKERMAN (Brichany, Khotin, Bessarabia) And Yedintz

KUPERMAN/COOPERMAN (Brichany, Khotin, Bessarabia) And Yedintz

CHAYET (Pasvalys, Kovno, Lithuania)

MEYEROWITZ (Kovno, Lithuania)

 


Renee Steinig
 

Lisa Steinberg <mrssteinberg162@...> asked about the Galician towns where her friend's Ditchek family originated:

<<... In 1909 the first cousin to arrive said he was from Bolschowzie, Galicia. In 1911 a brother to the grandfather said he was from Martynow, Galicia.... Neither Martynow nor Bolschowzie show up on the JewishGen townfinder.>>

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland (JRI-Poland.org) has about 20 entries for the surname DICZEK / DYCZEK from Martynow Nowy and over 120 entries for the name from Bolszowce. 

Both towns are near Ivano-Frankivsk (formerly Stanislawow), Ukraine. They are listed in Gesher Galicia's Galician Town Locator (https://www.geshergalicia.org/galician-town-locator/), where you can view all the towns in Galicia in the year 1900, including their various districts (administrative, judicial, Jewish, etc.).  

You can find Bolszowce (now Bilshivtsi, Ukraine) in JewishGen's Communities Database:
https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/community.php?usbgn=-1036038

Martynow Nowy (now Martynuv Novy or Novyi Martyniv, Ukraine) -- a smaller place -- is listed in the JewishGen Gazetteer:
https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/gazetteer/gazetteer.php

And be sure to also check Gesher Galicia's All Galicia Database (https://search.geshergalicia.org/), which lists a number of people named Diczek and Dyczek in the Stanislawow region.

Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills NY
genmaven@...


Sally Bruckheimer
 

"Neither Martynow nor Bolschowzie show up on the JewishGen townfinder."

The problem is that Martynow wasn't  a big Jewish Communities, and that is what the Jewishgen Communities Database has. Using the Jewishgen Gazetteer, there are about a dozen possible Martynows. Bolschowzie, on the other hand, is a big Jewish community, now Bilshivtsi, Ukraine.

Using the co-ordinates of Bilshivtsi, there are 2 Martynuvs nearby: Stary Martynuv and Novy Martynuv, Old and New Martynuv 8.5 miles away.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ


Alexander Sharon
 

JGFF system was constantly updated and hundreds of new, smaller places were added for the last 20+ years on the researchers request.
Billshivtsi (ex Bolszowce) are listed by 53 researchers for 94 surnames. 
Martynuv Stary (ex Martynów Stary) is also listed in JGFF database with 5 entries (latest entry was made just last month in September 2021)

BTW, In 1896 Bolszowce general population was 3,938 with 2,256 Jews (~57%).
During same reporting year Martynow Stary had 1,260 residents, including 66 Jewish souls, and Martynow Nowy had 595 residents including 48 Jewish people

M.Diczek is listed in 1929 Poland Business Directory as the owner of the General Store in Martynow Stary.
P1503.pdf (jri-poland.org)

Hope this help,

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB