Jewish soldiers in the Austrian army through the WWI #austria-czech


Shimy Karni
 

Hi,
I heard in the family that my GF, Hesh Horn was drafted to the Austrian-Hungary army
through WWI.
Are there any archives where I can find any documents to confirm  it?
Thanks,
Shimi Karni, Israel

Jewish soldiers in the Austian army through the WWI #austria-czech


Vered Dayan
 

Hi,
You can start here, registration is needed, but no fee: https://www.genteam.at
Afterwards go to the menu on the left and choose "Army". This is an ongoing work, not all records are online yet. If you can't find information there, I know that you can also ask for a lookup in the archives but for that you need to know the unit name. If you have Facebook, get in touch with Eli Brauner - https://www.facebook.com/eli.bor.31   who is a real expert on the subject.
Vered Dayan
Israel
  

 


Michel Bandura
 

Here my friend

 

https://www.oesta.gv.at/ueber-uns/abteilungen/kriegsarchiv1.html


I found a lot of docs for my biography thru them.

First you must write to them giving all possible information on the persons you are seeking 

They answered to me by letter thru the post ( I live in Vienna) after many weeks 

In my case they had 3 boxes with docs. I had to make an appointment to go there personally with my ID they let me in this “ministry of war” building 

Then I had a short interview with a friendly professor man about my demand for research

Then I went to a counter after having paid the fees upstairs to receive the 3 boxes with original documents that I could read and take pictures or make xerox copies in that same lecture room area .
Austria is extremely bureaucratic so one has to be patient…

on my grandfather’s military career if found out exactly where he was sent in the first WW1 and on another distant relative who was a captain I got those 3 boxes I just mentioned with so many informations on his 10 years military career which in the time of the Austrian Hungarian monarchy was normal…

he was a Jewish Hero who died in the battle of Dubno in the Ukraine in the WW1
thru all those documents I found out about the name of his widow who received a rent from the ministry of war and their two children … unfortunately she was deported but on the children I hit a brick wall ! 

Also on his brother also a chemistry doctor who survived the war i got a lot of docs.. amazing actually. He managed to escape on time in 1939 to America with his second wife where he lived and passed away

good luck 

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Michel Bandura
Wien / Österreich 
michel.bandura@...


E Feinstein
 

My name is Eric FEINSTEIN and I am a volunteer for the JOWBR of JewishGen.
As part of that project, several years ago, I initiated a separate project to document the burial places of the Jewish soldiers from Austria-Hungary that fell in WWI.  So far I have 8049 soldiers recorded with 4292 burial places.  I only have information about those that died during the war.
Anyone interested can contact me directly
 
Eric FEINSTEIN
Clifton New Jersey  

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Albert Braunstein
 

There is a book by Erwin A. Schmidl called Jews in the Habsburg Armed Forces
1788 - 1918
You can buy a used copy from bookfinder.com

Albert Braunstein
Melbourne, Australia


Ilan Ganot
 

The following book lists fallen Jewish soldiers while serving at the German Military forces during WW-1: 

Die jüdischen Gefallen des deutschen Heeres, der deutschen Marine und der deutschen Schutztruppen, 1914-1918 : ein Gedenkbuch, 1932

https://www.ushmm.org/online/hsv/source_view.php?SourceId=31988

Is there any similar book listing fallen Jewish soldiers while serving at the Austro-Hungarian Military forces?

Ilan Ganot 
Co-webmaster, Mazheik Memorial Website (MWWS) 


ebachert@...
 

Following this thread with interest for any more research tips. I have also wondered about my grandfather's role in WW1.  I don't know if he was drafted. He lived in Budapest until the mid 1920s after which he left Hungary. Here at left is his photo postcard addressed to his father on the back. It is dated 1918. He would have been around 22 years old. The other looks also like a formal portrait but nothing written on the back and there's no embossed stamp. Is there anyone here that might be knowledgeable about uniform insignias or medals? 

  

Genie Bachert
New Jersey


E Feinstein
 

Ilan.
There is a Hungarian Memorial volume yes.  I have a copy of it.  It is in Hungarian.
Magyar Hadviselt Zsidok Aranyabluma.  Published in 1940.
There was no Austrian Volume absolutely not.
I have a list of 8100 Austro-Hungarian Jewish soldiers that fell in WWI.
Also about the German list.  I have that list and many more people who were not in the book as well.
What is your interest?
All the best
Eric FEINSTEIN
Clifton New Jersey


Daniella Alyagon
 

Genie Bachert

The pictures you have posted show an Austro-Hungarian Hungarian uniform

Daniella Alyagon



נשלח מה-Galaxy שלי


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Daniella Alyagon

11 Rav Ashi St, Tel Aviv 6939545, Israel

alyagon.genealogy@...

 

Researching: ALYAGON (Israel), SHOCHETMAN (Kishinev / Letychev / Derazhnya), AGINSKY (Kishinev / Minsk), FAJNZYLBER (Siennica, Poland / Warsaw, Poland), JELEN (Minsk Mazowiecki, Poland), KIEJZMAN (Garwolin, Poland),  SLIWKA (Garwolin, Poland), MANDELBAUM (Janowiec, Poland / Zwolen, Poland / Kozienice, Poland), CUKIER (Janowiec, Poland), RECHTANT (Kozienice, Poland), FALENBOGEN (Lublin, Poland), ROTENSTREICH (Galicia), SELINGER (Galicia), BITTER (Galicia / Bukowina), HISLER (Galicia / Bukowina ), EIFERMAN (Galicia / Bukowina), FROSTIG (Zolkiew, Galicia / Lviv, Galicia), GRANZBAUER (Zolkiew, Galicia), HERMAN (Zolkiew, Galicia), MESSER (Lviv, Galicia / Vienna, Austria), PROJEKT (Lviv, Galicia), STIERER (Lviv, Galicia), ALTMAN (Lviv, Galicia), FRIEDELS (Lviv, Galicia)


Bernard Flam
 

Hi from Paris,
Dear Genie,
My GF Leon Flam and my G-U Meyer Levy Flam were also enrolled in Austrian-Hugarian army during WW1 as they were living in Olesko near Brody, Galicia.
Both survived WW1 and then Shoah in France.
As you have the original picture, you could learn more by enlarging :
  • his collar to recognize his unit, then ask Vienna DOD' archives to access campaign book of this unit
  • his medals to ask if these medals were awarded to the unit or to distinguish a particular brave soldier(it seems he wasn't an officer).
Khavershaft
Bernard Flam
Archives & history of Medem Center - Arbeter Ring of France (Bund, Skif, Workers Circle).


eavinezer@...
 


Shalom ,
Here is a digitized version of the 1940 edition of
Magyar Hadviselt Zsidok Aranyabluma:

https://mandadb.hu/tetel/652173/A_magyar_hadviselt_zsidok_aranyalbuma?fbclid=IwAR35nuM6qwH3f0uQPt4-RrvN2094I_bvbN2wVcdIOIwHkWKKyaE-ZTtv5hA

Elona Avinezer
eavinezer@...


eavinezer@...
 

Shalom,
Maybe this could be helpful:

Austria-Hungary casualty lists 1914-1919
https://wiki.genealogy.net/Verlustlisten_%C3%96sterreich-Ungarns_1914-1919

Elona Avinezer
eavinezer@...



Selma Sheridan
 

Hello fellow researchers,
If you are looking for historic information about soldiers, etc. in the Austro-Hungarian Army in World War I, here is my experience, which may be helpful to others pursuing this subject.  Eli Brauner on FB (https://facebook.com/eli.bor.31) referred me to an article by Christoph Tepperberg, Director of the Vienna Kriegsachiv; Mr. Brauner also mentioned that there is related information in the Lvov archive.  Since I could not locate either of these sources, I contacted Christoph Tepperberg (facebook.com/christoph.tepperberg); however, his email explained that he retired in 2017, and he referred me to: 
Oesterreichisches Staatsarchiv
Abt. Kriegsarchiv
Nottendorfer Gasse 2
A-1030 Wien
E-mail: ka@... 
The Kriegsarchiv replied immediately, in both German and English, asked for my full name and postal address, and explained  that it may take some time for a formal reply, - which of course is understandable.  I am looking forward to hearing from them, to learn more about the military experience of my grandfather and his brother-in-law in Infanterie Regiment No. 64.
Best to all,
Selma SIGAL SHERIDAN
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Selma SIGAL SHERIDAN
Oswego NY USA
ssherida@...
Researching: BAUCHMANN (Potok Zloty), BEUTEL (Skalat), CYNOWER (Budapest), ERLICHMAN (Lodz, Lowicz, Ostrowiec), FELD (Podhajce, Tarnopol), HERSCHER (Budapest, Lens), LANGER (Tarnopol, Vienna), LEMLER (Krakow, Vienna), OJSERKIS (Podhajce), PULVER (Vienna), RAUCH (Vienna), RITTER (Budapest), SIGAL (Kozova, Vienna), SWARTZ (Vienna)


rosibal
 

I just wanted to update you on the reply I got from the Vienna war archives regarding my query for information on my grandfather, DAVID BALBIRER's service in WW1, from Galicia:

Their reply in German:

Mit Bezugnahme auf Ihr E-Mail teilt Ihnen das Kriegsarchiv Wien Folgendes mit: Die eigentlichen Personalunterlagen der k. (u.) k. bewaffneten Macht: MilitärGrundbuchblätter, Stellungslisten und Assentprotokolle (service sheets, draft lists and enlistments registers) für die Geburtsjahrgänge 1850-1900 sind, sofern sie Personen betreffen, die ihr Heimatrecht außerhalb der Grenzen der heutigen Republik Österreich besessen hatten, nach dem Zerfall der Habsburger Monarchie (1918) nicht in das Wiener Kriegsarchiv gelangt. Sie sind vielmehr gemäß den Friedensbestimmungen von Saint-Germain (1919) in den Nachfolgestaaten (successor states) verblieben, wo sie zum Großteil vernichtet wurden. Das gilt insbesondere auch für die galizischen (polnischen/ukrainischen) Personalakten. Im Centralne Archiwum Wojskowe (Zentrales Militärarchiv), ul. Czerwonych Beretów bl. 124, PL00-910 Warszawa, Tel. 0048-22-6813-144, E-Mail: caw@... Internet: http://www.agad.archiwa.gov.pl befinden sich Unterlagen nur von solchen ehemaligen k. und k. Militärpersonen, die nach dem Zerfall der Habsburger Monarchie in die Polnische Armee eingetreten waren. Das Kriegsarchiv Wien verwahrt von galizischen (polnischen/ukrainischen) Soldaten lediglich subsidiäre Unterlagen über Auszeichnungen und Kriegsverluste des Weltkrieges 1914-1918 (Belohnungsanträge und Spitalsvormerkblätter sowie Karteien von Gefallenen, Verwundeten, Vermissten und Kriegsgefangenen).

Translation in English:
 
With reference to your e-mail, the Vienna War Archive informs you of the following:
The actual personnel documents of k. (below) k. armed power: military land register sheets, lists of positions and assent protocols (service sheets, draft lists and
enlistments registers) for the birth cohorts 1850-1900, insofar as they relate to persons
who had possessed their right of domicile outside the borders of today's Republic of Austria,
after the collapse of the Habsburg monarchy (1918) did not end up in the Vienna War Archives. she
are rather in accordance with the peace provisions of Saint-Germain (1919) in the
Successor states remained, where they were largely destroyed. That's true
especially for the Galician (Polish/Ukrainian) personnel files.
In the Centralne Archiwum Wojskowe (Central Military Archives), ul. Czerwonych Beretów bl. 124, PL00-910 Warsaw, tel. 0048-22-6813-144, e-mail: caw@... Internet:
http://www.agad.archiwa.gov.pl there are documents only from such former ones
k. and k. Military personnel after the collapse of the Habsburg monarchy into the Polish
army had joined.
The Vienna War Archives only keep Galician (Polish/Ukrainian) soldiers
Subsidiary documents on awards and war losses of the world war 1914-1918
(reward applications and hospital memo sheets as well as files on the dead, wounded,
missing and prisoners of war).

I think I will never find any record on him - I already searched the Polish archives.

Shosh Eizenshtein, Toronto


rickglaser@...
 

I wrote to the Red Cross regarding my grandfather who was in the Austrian-Hungarian army and was prisoner in Siberia until 1921.
This is the response I got.
 
GVA Tracing Archives Services (gva_tracingarchives_services@...)To:you Details
Dear Sir,

I thank you for your message and for your interest in the ICRC's individual archives related to the First World War.

In response to your request, I have carried out research in the ICRC archives (available at: https://grandeguerre.icrc.org).
Unfortunately, I regret to inform you that we do not have any information about your grandfather.

Please note that our archives are made up of information sent to us during conflict by detaining powers, ICRC delegations and National Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies. In some cases, no list has ever been created and in other cases the list never reached us. Our sources are therefore not exhaustive. Over seven million people were taken prisoner at some point during the First World War, but our archives contain information about only around two million of them.

Our archives mainly contain information from the Western Front. The Danish Red Cross ran a separate agency for prisoners captured on the Eastern Front – first for Germans held in Russia and Russians held in Germany, and then in 1917 for Austro-Hungarian and Romanian prisoners. For this reason I recommend you to contact the following archives : Danish Archives: https://www.sa.dk/en/about-us/contact/  

In order to complete your investigation, I advise you to contact the national archives of the Netherlands, Spain and the United States (until their intervention in the war in April 1917). Indeed, according to Hague International Law, these neutral countries played the role of protective powers during this conflict. As such, diplomatic representatives of these governments also inspected Prisoners of War and civilian camps during the war.

I regret not being able to assist you further.

Yours sincerely,

Fania Khan
ICRC Archives
 
 
 
 
 
I then wrote to the Danish archives and received this response:
 
spoergarkivaren (spoergrigsarkivet@...)To:you Details
 
To Rick Glaser,
 
The archive from Danish Red Cross, The Prisoner of War-office in Copenhagen contains a card index and lists of German POWs in Russia during WWI:
 
 
 
Further there could also be information about your grandfather in the correspondence and files from the Moskva office of Danish Red Cross:
 
If he had been interned in Denmark during the WWI, there might also be information about him in the card index from the POW Camp in Hald at Viborg (Jutland), that was operated by the Danish state. In the Hald camp were POWs of Germany and Austro-Hungary interned:
 
The card indexes and files can be ordered for use at our reading rooms – The card indexes from Hald can only be used at our reading room in Viborg and those from the DCR POW Office only in Copenhagen.
 
Alternatively can you order an archive search after information of your grandfather and scans of relevant files etc. against payment of 755 DKK/hour, which can be ordered here:
 
For further information about archive searches can our department of Revenue Funded Activities be contacted at mailboxIA@... or +45 41 71 72 01 Monday-Thursday 9-15 and Friday 9-13.
Best regards
Rigsarkivet

Lars H. Bak
Archivist, MA in history
User Services
The Danish National Archives
Haderslevvej 45, 6200 Aabenraa
Phone: +45 33 92 33 10
mailbox@... | www.sa.dk
 
I would either have to go to Denmark to view the archives, or pay someone to do that for me.  I am considering that.
 
Rick Glaser, Maryland