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treeoflife2020@...
 

hello everyone,

i am looking for information on the Jews Orphan Asylum in a Kent. i have found out i am jewish after a family remember revealing ancestry.com data to me at age of 36. there are some highly suspicious and difficult elements to this family tree that has been contructed. 

my direct grandfather's name was Streatfield. his mother's name was Ewington. they lived in Surrey but grandfather's birth is registered to Seven Oaks in Kent. Ewington is a Jewish name it would appear Streatfield is not. 

searching Jew Gen there is one entry for Laurence Streatfield. this shows as "Life Governor of Jews Orphand Asylum Kent". if anyone knows anything about the orphan asylum particularly in the years 1950 to 1990 please let me know.

also if anyone has any general advice for me at this point please let me know. i am 36 and female. i had no idea of my Jewish heritage until less than a week ago.

thank you everybody,

lizzy ferris 


David Barrett
 

contact info
https://www.norwood.org.uk/

David Barrett


David Barrett
 

I believe that this is now referred to as Norwood 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwood_(charity) and you would have to write direct to them to obtain , if I understand the law, any relevant information with PROOF of relationship 
Welcome to the clan 
Regards 
David Barrett


Miriam Deutscher
 

You don't mention about how your descent is Jewish.
Someone is only Jewish if they have maternal Jewish descent i.e. your mother's mother's mother etc. was Jewish. Otherwise you may have Jewish blood, but not actually be Jewish.

Surnames often help show if someone was Jewish, but not always. As one example, someone with a Jewish mother but a non-Jewish father might have a non-Jewish name (or the reverse). Aside from that names were sometimes misspelled or Anglicized to fit in better with society.

Miriam Deutscher


David Lewin
 

At 17:50 30/08/2020, Miriam Deutscher wrote:
You don't mention about how your descent is Jewish.
Someone is only Jewish if they have maternal Jewish descent i.e.
your mother's mother's mother etc. was Jewish. Otherwise you may
have Jewish blood, but not actually be Jewish.

Surnames often help show if someone was Jewish, but not always. As
one example, someone with a Jewish mother but a non-Jewish father
might have a non-Jewish name (or the reverse). Aside from that names
were sometimes misspelled or Anglicized to fit in better with society.

Miriam Deutscher
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This needs correcting

The USA uses different words to the UK here - so I am UK terminology
which you may have to "translate"

There are two major streams in the observing of Judaism : "Orthodox"
and "Reform"#

"Maternal Jewish descent " in defining Judaism is the requirement of
Orthodox or Traditional Judaism

The various "Reformed" or "Liberal strands will., of course, accept
that but will also accept anyone who asserts to being a Jew.

To my knowledge all the streams of Judaism require a proficiency in
Jewish history and Tradition when accepting a convert into Judaism

The amount of knowledge required will vary from one congregation to
the other. Equally the proficiency in Hebrew demanded will vary

Equally the recognition by surname is no longer "reliable" - brought
abouit in the main by intermarriage particularly since World War 2.

David Lewin
London


Joyaa Antares
 

Hi Lizzy,
Norwood Orphanage was at 38 Knights Hill, West Norwood in South London.
There were (are?) several orphanages in Sevenoaks. 
This link will show you two homes in Sevenoaks as well as the Norwood orphanage - http://www.formerchildrenshomes.org.uk/1900_orphanages.html.
You  may already know that the STREATFIELD/STREATFEILD name goes back a long, long way in Kentish history. 
This site will give you some idea: https://julietsgenealogy.org/my-family/streatfield/ -- and then you can click on "name index" and navigate to your surname. 
In fact there are some very experienced STREATFIELD researchers, and I'll message you privately with the email address for Michael Jeffries, who I wrote to a couple of hours ago for you.
He sounds very helpful and quickly responded.  He wrote, "It would be better to have as full information of her Streatfield ancestors back around 1880 to 1920 as this can reveal the links more quickly" - so when you correspond with him, please bear that in mind.
Good luck!!
Joyaa ANTARES
Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia
Not researching STREATFIELD, but had some ZAUSMER family at Norwood Orphanage, c.1905


paveanyu@...
 

Dear Lizzy,                       31st August 2020

I wonder, if I may politely suggest to you, please contact the London Beth Din:  020-343 6255---305 Ballards Lane London N3--Finchley--

Wishing you --Mazel and Brocho --and a lot of strength to find your 'roots'

Best wishes,

Veronika Pachtinger(paveanyu@...)


Gerald and Margaret
 

Lizzie,
Oh dear, straightaway, the divide in Anglo Jewry about who is a Jew is coming to the fore.  Just so irrelevant to Lizzie at this point.  

Veronika, at least  give accurate information.  The address of the London Beth Din is:-  305 Ballards Lane, North Finchley N12 8GB, London, UK.   The phone no is 020 8343 6270.  Who should she talk to , in which Dept? Not everyone would show empathy to someone who has been left in turmoil for the past week. by such a revelation.  Also, you were saying something very supportive, but  by using Yiddish words,  Lizzie is unlikely to know what they mean. Lizzie, Veronica has wished you 'Good Luck' and 'Blessing'

Lizzie, I hope you can keep calm and follow up what you want .  Norwood is a good starting point, as that organisation has always been involved with Jewish children. Its name has changed over the years. 

Margaret Levin
Finchley, London, UK