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Let me restate my name question Re: Nellie #russia #names


Gayle Schlissel Riley
 

OK What name in Russia or Jewish name..would the American name of NELLIE Be? I have dyslexia. I just can not figure out what name on the passenger list would be for her American of NELLIE.
This family came in 1905 to Mt Forest or Durham, Ontario, Canada.
There were four traveling together.. The grandma Bayla Cohen Levine age 70 plus. Ann was 13 yrs Sam 12 yrs and Nellie 9yrs.
There Father Jacob Levine owned a clothing store.
Please forgive my ill stated need for help.  Gayle


Dorann Cafaro
 

Gayle - I have seen several Nellie used for females names Helen, Ellen or Hannah. With an Ann already in the family I would tend toward the Hellen/Ellen option. Dorann


Susan&David
 

If you go to the Jewishgen Memorial Plaque Data Base and enter the given name (Sounds like) Nellie you will get a list of Nellies, many with Hebrew/Yiddish names. The most common is Nechama/Necha/Neche.  There are quite a few more, not surprisingly, varied.

David Rosen
Boston, MA


On 3/30/2020 9:31 PM, Gayle Schlissel Riley via Groups.Jewishgen.Org wrote:
OK What name in Russia or Jewish name..would the American name of NELLIE Be? I have dyslexia. I just can not figure out what name on the passenger list would be for her American of NELLIE.
This family came in 1905 to Mt Forest or Durham, Ontario, Canada.
There were four traveling together.. The grandma Bayla Cohen Levine age 70 plus. Ann was 13 yrs Sam 12 yrs and Nellie 9yrs.
There Father Jacob Levine owned a clothing store.
Please forgive my ill stated need for help.  Gayle


David Lewin
 

The closest Hebrew name I can think of is Nili - it is in fact an acronym for "Nezach Yisrael lo Yeshaker" a quote from Samuel 1, chapter 15  verse29 and an expression for the eternity of the Jewish People.  The bname was adopted by the Secret Organisation created in 1915        and active during World War 1. Its members in Jewish settlements in Palestine were passing information to the British in Egypt about matters concerning the Ottoman rule.  It was in fact an early attempt to bring about Jewish self rule in Paleatine.  The movement was eventually discovered by the Turks who severely punished its members and also some non-members

David Lewin


At 15:29 31/03/2020, Susan&David wrote:
If you go to the Jewishgen Memorial Plaque Data Base and enter the given name (Sounds like) Nellie you will get a list of Nellies, many with Hebrew/Yiddish names. The most common is Nechama/Necha/Neche.  There are quite a few more, not surprisingly, varied.

David Rosen
Boston, MA


On 3/30/2020 9:31 PM, Gayle Schlissel Riley via Groups.Jewishgen.Org wrote:
OK What name in Russia or Jewish name..would the American name of NELLIE Be? I have dyslexia. I just can not figure out what name on the passenger list would be for her American of NELLIE.
This family came in 1905 to Mt Forest or Durham, Ontario, Canada.
There were four traveling together.. The grandma Bayla Cohen Levine age 70 plus. Ann was 13 yrs Sam 12 yrs and Nellie 9yrs.
There Father Jacob Levine owned a clothing store.
Please forgive my ill stated need for help.  Gayle


Madeleine Isenberg
 

Hi Gayle,

Nellie, or possibly Nettie, might have had the Yiddish name, Necha.  (Not the greatest homonym for a current Hebrew word that means handicapped.)

My mother-in-law was a Nettie/Necha so I know of what I write.  Nad that also is a variation of the Nechama as others have replied.

Regards,
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Madeleine Isenberg
madeleine.isenberg@...
Beverly Hills, CA
 
Researching: GOLDMAN, STEINER, LANGER, GLUECKSMAN, STOTTER in various parts of Galicia, Poland
(Nowy Targ, Nowy Sanz, Wachsmund, Dembno, Lapuszna, Krakow, Ochotnica) who migrated into Kezmarok or
nearby towns in northern Slovakia and Czech Republic (i.e., those who lived/had businesses in Moravska Ostrava);
GOLDSTEIN in Sena or Szina, Szkaros and Kosice, Slovakia; Tolcsva and Tokaj, Hungary.


MARC M COHEN
 

With respect to the nickname Nettie, I had a great aunt Nettie whose Hebrew name was Neshama (soul) and whose given name was Ernestine.  So, Nettie could derive from either.

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Marc M. Cohen, Los Gatos, California, USA

BARAK/CANTORCZY: Khotin, Bessarabia; Strorozhinets, Bukovina, Ukraine
CHOMITZ/HAMETZ: Ionina (Janina), Greece; Ignatovka, Ukraine; Kiev Gubernia, Ukraine
COHEN: Dinovitsi (Dunayevtsy) Ukraine; Roman/Tirgu Frumos, Romania
KORNITZKY: Kiev Gubernia, Stepnitz/Stepantsy, Ukraine
RÎBNER: Storozhinetz, Costesti (Costyntsi), Drachinets, Cabesti, Bukovina, Ukraine
ROSENBERG: Tirgu Frumos, Roman, Romania; ISRAEL
WEININGER: Cabesti, Costesti, Drachinets, Czernowitz, Bukovina, Ukraine


Glenda Rubin
 

Nettie is also derived from Genesha.
 
I had an aunt named Nettie, and as far as I know, it wasn't a nickname or diminutive.  Her "Jewish" name was Genesha, and formal/English name was Nettie. I can't be absolutely certain, as I don't have birth certificate, but Nettie is what's on the 1910 census form when she was ~6 years old.
 
Glenda

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Glenda Rubin
San Francisco Bay Area
Researching: STRYZEWSKI, STRAUSS, JANOFSKY, JANOFF, OBODOV, WERNICK, GREENBERG, KROCHAK. Shtetls: Lipovets, Ilintsy, Pliskov, Starokonstantinov, Krasilov


Alex Woodle
 

My mother's given name was Nellie, her Hebrew name was Gnendela after her Galician grandmother.

Alex Woodle
Groton, MA


The Becker's Email
 

Rather than  looking for Nellie on a ship's manifest, look for Sam's naturalization papers, assuming he was naturalized in Canada.  Those should give details of his arrival.  Once you  know when he arrived and the ship, you can find him on the manifest and the others should be with him.
I would note that the 1911 Canadian census gives Nellie's year of arrival as 1906 (Sam's too) rather than 1905.  So be sure to allow some leeway.  
Also, the 1921 census records that Jacob was naturalized in 1906.  You might look for clues regarding his children.
Source for census records:  Ancestry
Lastly, contact the Jewish Genealogical Society of Toronto for help: https://jgstoronto.ca/

Although unrelated to your query, I found a fascinating document on findmypast.com when I was looking for information.  This is a 1910 insurance application by Jacob.  

Johanna Becker


Sarah L Meyer
 

Do a North American to the European country that your family came from using Jewishgen's given names database, https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames/search.htm

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Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania
https://www.sarahsgenies.com


Moishe Miller
 

Hi,
 
Perhaps you are aware that at times, a ship manifest my have a Jewish (Hebrew or Yiddish) name, rather than the legal or civil name they became known as later in life. You might find the tombstone of my cousin, Nettie (not Nellie) Spira nee Gottlieb, interesting. Her tombstone records her Jewish name as "Nesheh, daughter of Menashe". You can see it at:
 
Wishing a Shana Tova to all,
 
Moishe Miller
Brooklyn, NY


manderlie@...
 

I did not notice anyone mention that Eleanor is also shortened to Nell, Nellie etc as it is Helen and and Ellen. In Russian Eleonora.  Did you check the Census? Death notices of parents or brother Sam? They may list her and maybe her married name if you don't know it. If you do, search for her death notice and burial and headstone.  You can contact JGS Toronto for further help with cemetery information.

Sue Diamond


Shel
 

And ‘my’ Nettie was Gnesia….

Shel Bercovich,
CALGARY, AB, CANADA

BERCOVICI - Darabani, RO; GHERBIL - Darabani, RO; LIPKIND - Belarus; KLEBANOV - Belarus; ZWANG - Ukraine; ECHTER - Ukraine;


Gary Dickman
 

My mother given name was Nelli. She was born in Russia in 1932 and I know at least 2 other women born in Russia and their given name is Nelli.