LODZ or WARSAW?? #records #lodz #warsaw


Marilyn Robinson
 

My grandmother, Gus/Gittel MICHALOWICZ/LEVINE SCHULTZ (b. 7 Jan. 1891) told me that she was born in Warsaw. She immigrated to the US in July/August 1891 on the Furst Bismark when she was 6 months old with her mother, Rivke, & siblings. The ship's manifest indicated that the family was from Lodz. Various records that I researched on JRI-Poland indicated that the family & relatives came from Lodz  & Thomasow Mazowiecki.
My grandmother's various records filled out in the US and her brother's US records [Josef/Joseph LEVINE] say they were from Warsaw. So, I'm confused: why would my grandmother say Warsaw in her US records when Polish records indicate otherwise??
Thank you,

Marilyn Robinson
Florida
MICHALOWICZ, REICHMAN/RAJCHMAN/REJCHMAN, TAFLOWICZ/TAFLOWITCH, MINC/MINTZ---from Tomaszow Mazowiecki, Lodz areas


Veronica Zundel
 

Could it be that she thought Americans would a) not have heard of Lodz and b) not be able to pronounce it, so she changed her place of origin to somewhere better known and easier to pronounce?

Veronica
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Veronica Zundel, London
Searching descendants of Josef Jakob Horoschowski b. 1905 Drohobych


kesspark@...
 

Possibly the family was registered in Łódź but moved to Warsaw. My grandfather’s half brother’s birth record stated family from Vilnius but record was from Łódź. Which is correct. 


Rachel Kessler Park
Keiles - Vilnius, Łódź, Warsaw
Kessler - Starro Konstantinov 
Nagin - Poltava
Park - Amsterdam 


Michele Lock
 

My experience has been that immigrants who came to the US as young children could be rather confused about where they were born or where their families last lived before immigrating or where their families originated. The best example I have is of a distant great uncle Alex Locke of Chicago, who told everyone he was born in Estonia or Germany, or even the German city of Reval (now Tallinn, Estonia). Jewishgen records tell otherwise - he was born Elia Lak in Telsiai, Lithuania (then in Russia) in 1876. By the early 1880s, his family had moved to Estonia (then in Russia), with their days in Lithuania somehow forgotten. Ten years after that, they moved to Chicago.

I see that Lodz is only about 75 miles from Warsaw. Perhaps the family did spend some time there prior to immigrating. Whatever the case may be, the records you have found for them in Lodz are correct.
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Michele Lock

Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock and Kalon/Kolon in Zagare/Joniskis/Gruzdziai, Lithuania
Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock in Plunge/Telsiai in Lithuania
Rabinowitz in Papile, Lithuania and Riga, Latvia
Trisinsky/Trushinsky/Sturisky and Leybman in Dotnuva, Lithuania
Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania
Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland
Lavine/Lev/Lew in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Vilna gub., Belarus