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Looking for a town in Belarus #belarus


June Genis
 

According to the 1920 census the person I am looking for, Rose
Margolis Hollander, appears to have been born in a place called
"Katrineslav" which is the Mogilev gubernia. I say "appears" because
the handwriting is very hard to read. Another tree has her born in
"Katrenaler, Russia". Neither Google or Jewishgen can find either of
those places. Does anyone know another name for either of them?

June Genis
Hemet CA
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June Genis, 650--851-5224
Hemet, CA
Researching: GENIS, OKUN, SUSMAN, ETTINGER, KESSLER/CHESLER (Russian/Polish Empires)


Adam Turner
 

The best-known place that resembles this name is not in Belarus: Ekaterinoslav (now called Dnipro), named for Catherine the Great. It is in central-southern Ukraine and had a very large Jewish population - about 41,000 - by 1900.

Are you sure that your Rose Hollander could not have been born in this Ekaterinoslav? It was not unusual for Jewish families from Belarus, and from other parts of the Russian Empire, to move to the big, growing cities of central Ukraine (Ekaterinoslav, Odessa, Elizabethgrad, etc.) in the late 19th/early 20th centuries. I can tell you for a fact that my gg-grandmother's older sister (born ~1860) moved from the area around Kobrin to Ekaterinoslav, probably around the 1890s, before eventually immigrating with her husband and daughters to Chicago in 1906.

Adam Turner


pathetiq1@...
 

Hi June, 

I am afraid that there is a misconception. According to the 1920 census (as well as in other documents), Rose Hollander and two of her children were born in Ekaterinoslav (misspelled Katrineslav),  which is present-day Dnipro, Ukraine.  Her husband appears to have been born in Mogilev gubernia. That doesn't mean that "Katrineslav" was, also, located in Mogilev. 

Giannis Daropoulos 

Greece


Hilary Henkin
 

My initial response was that the place you're looking for is the city which was known as Ekaterinoslav.  Like Mogilev, it's on the Dnieper River, but south of Mogilev, in Ukraine.  The name of the city as our ancestors knew it is commonly mangled in any of dozens of different ways.

It was named for Catherine, the tzar (katerina = Catherine).  In 1926 (after the Russian Revolution), it was renamed to Dnepropetrovsk, to mark its location on the Dnieper river, and a communist leader Grigory Petrovsky.  In 2016, it was renamed as Dnipro, as part of a 2016 Ukraine decommunization law.

Records from Dnipro are not currently easily accessible, if at all.

Hilary Henkin

Researching:
Mogilev - BERLIN;  BELIISKI;  HENKIN - GENKIN;  MESCENIKOV;  POZ - POZE
Ekaterinoslav - KATZ; LAPIDUS;  LAVROTIN - LAVRUTIN - AVRUTIN;  PESACHINSKY; SHIMERNITSKY - SEMERNITSKY;  STEINHART
Roumania:  DONNENFIELD;  DOLLINGER;  RINCOVER - HARINCOVER;  WISENTHAL - VIESENTAUL
Harbin, China:  FELDMAN;  PENZNER;  SREBERK - SCHRIEBER;
Lublin, Poland:  KATZ;  JARMUSZ



On 1/15/2021 11:11 AM, June Genis wrote:
According to the 1920 census the person I am looking for, Rose
Margolis Hollander, appears to have been born in a place called
"Katrineslav" which is the Mogilev gubernia. I say "appears" because
the handwriting is very hard to read. Another tree has her born in
"Katrenaler, Russia". Neither Google or Jewishgen can find either of
those places. Does anyone know another name for either of them?

June Genis
Hemet CA
--
June Genis, 650--851-5224
Hemet, CA
Researching: GENIS, OKUN, SUSMAN, ETTINGER, KESSLER/CHESLER (Russian/Polish Empires)


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nordell7@...
 

My grandmother went from Slutsk to Ekaterinaslav as a teenager to study at a millinery school there, probably in the mid1890s.  She returned to Slutsk, married there and in 1906 made her way with her two kids to Capetown to retrieve her husband, and then to New York.

Larry Nordell