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Davya
 



I have hit a brick wall looking for the origins of my family and would appreciate some suggestions.
 
My paternal great grandparents are Joseph and Kate Slootsky. According to the census, they arrived here in 1892, as a married couple. All nine of their children were born in the USA. The oldest two in New Haven, Connecticut the rest in Bayonne, Jersey City and Passaic, New Jersey. Some documents I’ve located have my great grandmother’s first name as Kate, others as Gussie. Her maiden name on birth records and marriage records of her children appears as variations of the same name, Valodarsky, Wollokosky, Valador, Volodarska, Vlador, and Valudet, which of course confuses the issue.
 
I have tried using various spellings of the name Slootsky (but have been unsuccessful) in finding them entering any port in the USA. I understand the records from Castle Gardens for that year were lost in a fire, therefore, they may have entered there. Unfortunately, I don't know where the family originated from.
 
After settling here in the USA, most of Joseph Slootsky’s cousins changed the spelling of their name to Slutsky or they changed their name to Slade. In later years, some of Joseph’s own sons changed their name to Slade. Joseph died in 1927 and is buried in Baron Hirsch Cemetery in Staten Island. Kate committed suicide in 1933 but I don’t know where she is buried.
 
Oddly, my branch of the Slootsky family plus 2 other Slootsky families all lived down the street from one another in Bayonne, New Jersey at the same time. The 3rd Slootsky family left Bayonne and moved to Cape May, New Jersey but I’ve never been able to figure out how these other families are connected to our family. 
 
I also discovered a second Joseph Slootsky. He left the East coast moved to Utah then to the state of Washington, however, I have never found a connection with him and my Slootsky family.
 
The only clue I have to where Joseph and Kate may have immigrated from is that a cousin, Louis Slootsky, (and I’m still not exactly sure how they are our cousins) came from Elizabetgrad, Kiev, Russia. Louis’s wife, Sahre Archangelouskaya came from Archangel, Arctic Circle, Russia. I understand that Louis and Sahre were uncle and niece as well as husband and wife.
 
If anyone has any suggestions for me I’d appreciate hearing them.
 
Thanks,
Davya (née Slootsky) Cohen
 
 
 
 


Peter Lebensold
 

Have you considered a Canadian entry?  I notice that Ancestry has an Abraham SLOOTSKY (born c. 1894, "Russia") arriving in Quebec City, 2 July 1913, aboard The Sicilian.  Might he have been following a route pioneered by your Joseph and Kate?  And, if you haven't already, you might want to check out the Hamburg Passenger Lists.

Peter Lebensold
Toronto


Susan&David
 

There is a 1894 New Haven Court naturalization index card for Solomon or Samuel Slade / Slootsky on FamilySearch.org.  If you could locate the document(s) themselves there might be a clue there.

David Rosen
Boston, MA

On 10/9/2020 3:09 PM, Davya via groups.jewishgen.org wrote:


I have hit a brick wall looking for the origins of my family and would appreciate some suggestions.
 
My paternal great grandparents are Joseph and Kate Slootsky. According to the census, they arrived here in 1892, as a married couple. All nine of their children were born in the USA. The oldest two in New Haven, Connecticut the rest in Bayonne, Jersey City and Passaic, New Jersey. Some documents I’ve located have my great grandmother’s first name as Kate, others as Gussie. Her maiden name on birth records and marriage records of her children appears as variations of the same name, Valodarsky, Wollokosky, Valador, Volodarska, Vlador, and Valudet, which of course confuses the issue.
 
I have tried using various spellings of the name Slootsky (but have been unsuccessful) in finding them entering any port in the USA. I understand the records from Castle Gardens for that year were lost in a fire, therefore, they may have entered there. Unfortunately, I don't know where the family originated from.
 
After settling here in the USA, most of Joseph Slootsky’s cousins changed the spelling of their name to Slutsky or they changed their name to Slade. In later years, some of Joseph’s own sons changed their name to Slade. Joseph died in 1927 and is buried in Baron Hirsch Cemetery in Staten Island. Kate committed suicide in 1933 but I don’t know where she is buried.
 
Oddly, my branch of the Slootsky family plus 2 other Slootsky families all lived down the street from one another in Bayonne, New Jersey at the same time. The 3rd Slootsky family left Bayonne and moved to Cape May, New Jersey but I’ve never been able to figure out how these other families are connected to our family. 
 
I also discovered a second Joseph Slootsky. He left the East coast moved to Utah then to the state of Washington, however, I have never found a connection with him and my Slootsky family.
 
The only clue I have to where Joseph and Kate may have immigrated from is that a cousin, Louis Slootsky, (and I’m still not exactly sure how they are our cousins) came from Elizabetgrad, Kiev, Russia. Louis’s wife, Sahre Archangelouskaya came from Archangel, Arctic Circle, Russia. I understand that Louis and Sahre were uncle and niece as well as husband and wife.
 
If anyone has any suggestions for me I’d appreciate hearing them.
 
Thanks,
Davya (née Slootsky) Cohen
 
 
 
 


Sherri Bobish
 


Davya,

Joseph & Kate Slootsky are listed on:
https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/

Joseph:
Zundel Ber b. Avraham Yitzchak
Baron Hirsch Cemetery / Bayonne Hebrew Benevolent Association / Section A - Gate 128

Kate:

Gitel b. Gershon
Baron Hirsch Cemetery / Bayonne Hebrew Benevolent Association / Section A - Gate 128

With the exact dates that they passed on you should be able to obtain their death certificates. 

Since they are not listed in the NYC death index, I suggest looking at NJ.

Regards,

Sherri Bobish


Lee Hover
 

Don't overlook the possibility of Galveston as the port of entry.  That's where my GF came in in 1909.

Lee Hover


The Becker's Email
 

Have you obtained Joseph's and Kate's death certificates?  Hopefully the informant(s) were there children who may have supplied info on where, in Russia they were from.

Johanna Becker
Newport, RI


Mary Ann Evan
 

Davya, the earlier suggestions to look for death certificates and passenger manifests are really excellent.

Regarding other spellings of the name, I had a few thoughts.
1) I'm assuming that your family came from Eastern Europe rather than Germany or Austria. I haven't seen any Slavic language that uses a double "o" in the middle of a word. I think the original spelling is more likely to have a "u" instead of the double "o". Another possibility is an "o" with an accent (ó), which would also have been pronounced like the English "ooh."
2) If they lived in Poland or in areas in Belarus or Ukraine that might have been part of Poland at the time, the ending "tsky" was almost certainly "cky" as the letter "c" in this word would have been pronounced like "ts" in English.
3) Also, and this is really a long shot, if at some point the name used the Polish spelling, the second letter could be different. The original may have started with "Sł" where the "ł" is pronounced like a "w" in English. More important, when indexing is done by people who don't speak the language of origin, this "ł" is often transcribed as the English "t," and so you might also keep an eye out for names starting in "Stu" in the indexes of passenger manifests or other documents indexed by Americans.

Mary Ann Evan


mvayser@...
 

Mary Ann,
There are definitely Russian words with double O, but in this case the spelling of the last name is to convey Russian pronunciation - S-loot-ski. Slutski is an alternate  transcription, but has a negative connotation in US and incorrect pronunciation.  If pronounced following the English language closed syllable rules, "lut", rhymes with "but", however that is not the correct sound for this name. 
Slutsky is one of many Ashkenazi last names that are based on geography. Slutsk was a regional city in Slutsk uezd (county) of the Minsk province, in what is now Belarus. In 1897 71% of the population was Jewish.

Mike Vayser


mvayser@...
 

Hello Davya,
The name of the city was Elisavetgrad, not Elizabetgrad.  It was a regional center of the Elisavetgrad uezd (county) in the Kherson province.  The city was recently renamed from Kirovograd to Kropyvnytskyi.  JewishGen hasn't changed the name on the website, so be sure to use "Kirovograd" as the search term.
Archangelskaya/Arkhangelskaya (feminine version of Archangelskiy/Arkhangelskiy) is a based on Arkhangelsk, a town in the western part of the Elisavetgrad uezd, which is now known as Novoarkhanhelsk (New Arch Angel)

Kirovohrad, Ukraine: https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/community.php?usbgn=-1041993
Novoarkhanhelsk, Ukraine: https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/community.php?usbgn=-1048149
 
Ukraine SIG - Yelisavetgrad (Kirovograd): https://www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine/GEO_town.asp?id=26
Ukraine SIG - Novoarkhangelsk: https://www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine/GEO_town.asp?id=39

Mike Vayser


David Oseas
 

According to the index card, the naturalization for Samuel/Solomon can be found in the records of the Court of Common Pleas, New Haven, Vol 4, pg 67 (Oct 20, 1894).  The document is not indexed on FamilySearch, however, an image of the document can be found here:  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C3MK-C9L3-K?i=128&cc=3238391

Regards,
David Oseas