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Lost family in Ukraine-a dead end #ukraine


STANSKY
 

My family name in Russia was Shainsky.  My paternal grandfather, grandmother, and children arrived in 1913 in Philadelphia.  His 18 yo brother also came on the same ship, but was deported due to illness.  I have not been able to trace one family member in Russia.  There is a tree on MyHeritage, which has some equivalent names that I recognize, but the manager of the tree in Australia had not responded to my requests.  I even looked at the trees of my DNA matches, with no luck.  This has been previously posted on Tracing the Tribe.  The 1897 Census does not yield any names on Ancestry when inserting the English spelling.
 
Here are the names:. GF- Chaim Yehoshuah Shainsky.  His brother: Moishe Shainsky (Scheinsky on the ship manifest.). Their father: Mordechai (Mottel) Ber Shainsky, who never came to the US.  His wife may be Rivka.  On that family tree from Australia, Mordechai has numerous children, but my emigrant GF is not mentioned among them.  Those include:. Volka Mordhovich Shainsky, Moisha Shainsky, Masia Shainsky, Malka Shainsky, Baila Shainsky, and one unknown.  Other descendants include:. Geller, Vail, Ostrovsky, Kunin.  I do have correspondence and photos from Russia with the given names Motele, Genia, Soyfer.  There may also be a Gershon.
 
Any help anyone could offer would be much appreciated.  I am in contact with a large U.S. Shainsky family via Y DNA, and we would love to discover how we are related.  Thanks so much.
 
Stanley Solinsky
 
 


Amybeth
 

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My family name in Russia was Shainsky.  My paternal grandfather, grandmother, and children arrived in 1913 in Philadelphia.  His 18 yo brother also came on the same ship, but was deported due to illness.  I have not been able to trace one family member in Russia.  There is a tree on MyHeritage, which has some equivalent names that I recognize, but the manager of the tree in Australia had not responded to my requests.  I even looked at the trees of my DNA matches, with no luck.  This has been previously posted on Tracing the Tribe.  The 1897 Census does not yield any names on Ancestry when inserting the English spelling.
 
Here are the names:. GF- Chaim Yehoshuah Shainsky.  His brother: Moishe Shainsky (Scheinsky on the ship manifest.). Their father: Mordechai (Mottel) Ber Shainsky, who never came to the US.  His wife may be Rivka.  On that family tree from Australia, Mordechai has numerous children, but my emigrant GF is not mentioned among them.  Those include:. Volka Mordhovich Shainsky, Moisha Shainsky, Masia Shainsky, Malka Shainsky, Baila Shainsky, and one unknown.  Other descendants include:. Geller, Vail, Ostrovsky, Kunin.  I do have correspondence and photos from Russia with the given names Motele, Genia, Soyfer.  There may also be a Gershon.
 
Any help anyone could offer would be much appreciated.  I am in contact with a large U.S. Shainsky family via Y DNA, and we would love to discover how we are related.  Thanks so much.
 
Stanley Solinsky



Hello,

I’m not sure if you have seen this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Shainsky

I also found many Shainsky’s by doing a search on family search.org. There was a death certificate in Illinois for a Fannie Kracow nee Shainsky who was born in 1851 in Kiev Russia with a listed father of Jacob Shainsky. 


There is also a naturalisation for a Chaim aka “Sam” Shainsky who lived in California. Also from Kiev. His wife’s name was Bessie & it looks like he arrived in Galveston, TX via Germany. But lives in Petaluma, CA. 


I would do a search there- family search.org. It’s free & you can get a lot of documents you may have to pay for at other sites. Plus they have some International records that other sites may not have. 


Best of luck!!
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Amybeth
Researching:
BLUMENTHAL: Russia> Poland> NYC> Rochester, NY
SCHOENBERG/SHOENBERG: Russia/Ukraine (Kuz’myn) (Satanov)> Rochester, NY
POLLACK/POLLAK: Russia/Ukraine (Kuz’myn) (Satanov)
COHEN/ha COHEN: Russia/Ukraine (Kuz’myn) (Satanov)
GRYNGRAS: Poland (Radzilow) (Szczuczyn)

Amybeth.gregory@...


Chuck Weinstein
 

Stanley,
You need to find documentation from where in Ukraine they came from.  Either the arrival record or their citizenship declarations should include this information.  There are millions of records in Ukraine, but to track down your family will likely require that information.  

Ancestry has a small portion of the 1897 Revision List.  The JewishGen Ukraine Research Division has a much larger portion of the list in its original Russian, but to date, we have only been able to index a  small part of what we have.  

If you can let me know where they originated, I can give you more guidance.

Chuck Weinstein
Towns Director, JewishGen Ukraine Research Division
chuck1@...


STANSKY
 

Thanks for your offer to help, Chuck.  We are all from Belaya Tserkov, as far as I know.   This is referred to repeatedly in the ship manifests, old photos, correspondence.  I have envelopes with the street addresses as:  #18 Pomachnia St and #38 Kievski St.  Whether these are house addresses or places to pick up mail, I cannot know.  A Chabad rabbi in Belaya Tserkov sent me photos of the addresses a few years ago, but it looks like it was all rebuilt after the war.  Other Y DNA matches with the Shainsky name come from Ignatova (sp?), closer to Kyiv.  I searched further in Yad Vashem and found Shainski pages with a possible name from the tree in MyHeritage.   Still searching!   Thanks for responding.
Stan Solinsky


STANSKY
 

Thank you for responding, Amybeth.  I have heard of the famous composer, but I do not think we are related.  I am in touch with California Shainskys, including the name you mentioned.  I could not find anything useful in FamilySearch, but Yad Vashem may yield a clue.     Stan Solinsky

Researching:
SHAINSKY, GORDON, GOROPOTCH, KAMENETZKY, LUDWIG>  Belaya Tserkov, Ukraine
MALKIEL,  DEWERE/DVIR/DWER> Dagda, Latvia
ETKIN, ETKINAS, LARVE/KATZ, MELAMED> Kovno/Kaunas, Slobadka/Vilajampole Lithuania


Chuck Weinstein
 

Many metrical records for Belaya Tserkov can be found on Alex Krakovsky's excellent wiki page at  https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%84%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B5_%D0%BC%D1%96%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%BA%D0%BE#%D0%9A%D0%B8%D1%97%D0%B2%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D0%B3%D1%83%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D1%96%D1%8F.  The site is in Ukrainian, but Google Chrome browser will translate into English (sort of).  Scroll down to Bila Tserkva.  The records, themselves, are in Russian.  We hope to find volunteers to translate them and create an index.  

Chuck Weinstein


Gary Pokrassa
 

I have very good news Stanley - there are a number of records from Belaya Tserkov which have been recently processed and are in the queue for uploading to the database including 1875 revision list and metric records ranging from 1852-1898 but these are sporadic and only about 1/3 of the years are presented;  please be just a bit patient and they should be available

Gary Pokrassa
Data Acquisition Director
Ukraine Research Division


Phyllis Berenson
 

JewishGen has more than 12,000 records posted for Belaya Tserkov and more in the queue to be posted. See below --