Meaning of “Non Immigrant Alien” on ship’s manifest and town name “Nanskarum” near Kamenets-Podolsk #ukraine


ammo44able
 

My GGF, William Cohn immigrated from Kamenets Podolsk between 1902-1907 had “Non Immigrant Alien” stamped on his ship’s manifest document. What does that mean exactly?…. And does the town name Nanskarum mean anything to anyone?
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Adam Colin Morrison
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San Francisco, California, USA


george weiss
 

Please post a Much Clearer!! picture..when I enlarge all is too blurred
George Weiss


Ilan Ganot
 

The same "Non Immigrant Alien” was stamped on my grandfather's ship manifest document, dated 1904. To the best of my understanding this definitions stands for a tourist, who is a non US citizen, intending to stay temporarily in the USA and not to settle or stay permanently.
After a few years, my grandfather indeed sailed back to Europe in 1908.

Ilan Ganot 
Co-webmaster, Mazheik Memorial Website (MMWS) 


rosibal
 

I think it means he was already living in the States but was not a citizen.

Shosh Eizenshtein, Toronto 


Laurie Sosna
 

Check your manifest for the final destination.
My great-granduncle arrived at Ellis Island with that stamp. His final destination was Montreal, Canada. The stamp indicates he and his wife were, in effect, "just passin' through."


Laurie Sosna
San Francisco, CA


Laurie Sosna
 

Another interpretation would be that the passenger was not intending to stay in the U.S., they were just visiting.

Laurie Sosna,
San Francisco


ammo44able
 

Thanks for the input folks. He did in fact end up settling in NYC so…
Attached is a better photo. Thanks.
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Adam Colin Morrison
ammo44@...
San Francisco, California, USA


Renee Steinig
 

As the manifest says (column 15), William had been in the U.S. before, from 1902-1906. He must have gone back to Russia and was now returning. He was listed as a "non-immigrant" because his first entry to the U.S. -- in 1902 or earlier, if the information he reported was correct -- was when he was considered to have immigrated. And he was listed as an alien because he had not yet naturalized.

Note that the last residence (col. 10) looks like "Nanskarum" but the birth place (last column) appears to be "Manskarum." Chances are that both entries refer to the same place -- whatever that place may be!

A reminder to all: It's very helpful to provide an actual link to the record about which you're asking, so that Genners can get the sharpest possible view of it. Alternatively, provide enough detail so that others can search for the record -- e.g. William Cohn, 21, arrived Feb. 1907 on the Statendam.

Also, if you have a tree online, please provide that link as well. Adam's tree is here:
If censuses are right, William naturalized between 1910 and 1920. Finding his naturalization might help you with place of origin and arrival date.

One more issue: I see that WWII card says "Kamanetz."  Adam, do you have evidence that William was from Kamenets Podolsk, now Kamyanets Podilskyy, Ukraine? Another large town called "Kamenetz" was Kamenets Litovsk, now Kamyanyets, Belarus.

Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills NY
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On Fri, Sep 23, 2022, Adam Morrison <ammo44@...> wrote:

My GGF, William Cohn immigrated from Kamenets Podolsk between 1902-1907 had “Non Immigrant Alien” stamped on his ship’s manifest document. What does that mean exactly?…. And does the town name Nanskarum mean anything to anyone?
 


2m.goldberger@...
 

In my opinion,... last residence (col. 10) “Nanskarum”:
The village of Lyantskorun' in the Kamanets-Podolsk region can match phonetically.
The name has been changed and now in Ukrainian the village is called Zarichanka.

Marc Goldberger
Israel 


edl1825dc@...
 

Other possible reasons, in addition to tourist, to be classified as a "non-immigrant alien" could be merchant, diplomat, student, a person in transit, or a similar situation, each intending to be in the USA for a period of time without intending to immigrate to the USA.  Those accompanying the non-immigrant alien would also have been so classified unless the facts showed otherwise.

Edward David Luft
Juris Dcotor
https://sites.google.com/site/edwarddavidluftbibliography/home/edward-david-luft-bibliography


EdrieAnne Broughton
 

From the information on the manifest, I think William, a furrier with a friend in NYC and previous stays in the US, was probably on a buying trip for furs.  He had $50 which was significantly more than immigrants on the same ship.  He probably also was authorized in buying more than $50 would get him.  
 
EdrieAnne Broughton, Vacaville, California


Susan
 

The manifest for my grandfather's travel to the U.S. from Europe has this same stamp.  At the time he was already living in the U.S. and had already applied for citizenship.  Thus he was, on this particular trip, a non-immigrant as he had already "immigrated", but was still an "alien" as his naturalization process was not yet completed.
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Susan Gray, Chicago
Searching:

 -FELDSTEIN / FELDSZTAJN / FELTON / FELTYN etc.; GOLDBERG; WEINSTEIN / WEINSZTEIN etc. from Warsaw, Lutsk, Kamenets Podolskiy, Kholm.
-APPLE / APPEL / APEL etc; TAUB; LINEAL / LINIAL; KLEIN from Burshtyn, Rogatin, Sarniki, Putyatinsy, Dem'yanov, Solova.
-PAILET / PEYLET / PAILED / PEJLET etc; ITZCOVITZ / ITSKOVITCH etc. from Butrimonys, Panosiskes, Nemajunai, Vilnius, Drosgusitz.
-RATSAN / RACAN; SIROTA from Butrimonys, Jieznas, Brishton.


m_tobiasiewicz@...
 

WHEN IN DOUBT . . . I google it.

Nonimmigrant Alien Definition | US Immigration Glossaryhttps://www.usimmigration.org › glossary › nonimmigr...
A foreign national who is admitted to the United States on a temporary basis for a specific purpose is the definition of Nonimmigrant Alien.

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Maryellen Tobiasiewicz
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family from: Bielsko-Biala powiat Poland
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