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Need help with "Records of Aliens Pre-Examined in CANADA" 1918 #canada

Eileen Kessner
 

 

I found this record of my grandfather’s sister FANNIE GOODINSKY having resided in Canada

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=WinnipegAliens&h=309827

 

I do not fully understand the document.  She states she resides in Montreal at 198 Fifth Ave Dom. Pk., and she is travelling to her sister at 1010 Tremont Avenue which I believe is in the Bronx.  The ticket was paid for by herself.  Would this be a train ticket? Can anyone locate this address in Montreal for me and help me understand why she would be in Montreal?  She stated she had resided in the US from 1912 to December 10, 1918.  There is no family that I know of ever having lived in Canada.  She married in the Bronx in 1920 and remained there until her death in April 1984. Thanks in advance.

 

Eileen Goode Kessner

Researching : GOODINSKY, SCHMIDT from PRENAI, SALK, KATSEV from VILKOMIR, AUGUST from WIELKE-OCHY and FREEDMAN from LEEDS, UK

 

Diane Jacobs
 

You way want to search  stevemorse.org

for the Canadian border crossings and passenger manifests, there is lits of good information if you find family there

Diane Jacobs


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Subject: [JewishGen.org] Need help with "Records of Aliens Pre-Examined in CANADA" 1918 #canada

 

I found this record of my grandfather’s sister FANNIE GOODINSKY having resided in Canada

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=WinnipegAliens&h=309827

 

I do not fully understand the document.  She states she resides in Montreal at 198 Fifth Ave Dom. Pk., and she is travelling to her sister at 1010 Tremont Avenue which I believe is in the Bronx.  The ticket was paid for by herself.  Would this be a train ticket? Can anyone locate this address in Montreal for me and help me understand why she would be in Montreal?  She stated she had resided in the US from 1912 to December 10, 1918.  There is no family that I know of ever having lived in Canada.  She married in the Bronx in 1920 and remained there until her death in April 1984. Thanks in advance.

 

Eileen Goode Kessner

Researching : GOODINSKY, SCHMIDT from PRENAI, SALK, KATSEV from VILKOMIR, AUGUST from WIELKE-OCHY and FREEDMAN from LEEDS, UK

 

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Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey

Sherri Bobish
 


Hi Eileen,

On Ancestry I put 198 5th in the keyword search.  I typed Montreal in the "any event" section.  I found the 1921 census listing a family ASH living there at that time.

Of course, a different family may have been living at that address when Fannie visited.

You may be able to use Montreal city directories from the 1919 time frame to find out who was living at 198 5th when Fannie visited.

Regards,

Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ

Shelley Mitchell
 

Yes. Tremont Avenue is in The Bronx. And there has been a train for a while between Canada and US. One of your links is broken so I might be missing something.

However, is it possible that your relative was staying in Canada during the Spanish Flu?

Why Canada? Not enough details like a Canadian Census or newspaper articles, for example.
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Shelley Mitchell, NYC    shemit@...
Searching for TERNER, GOLDSCHEIN, KONIGSBERG, SCHONFELD, in Kolomyya; PLATZ, in Delaytn; and TOPF, in Radautz and Kolomea.

Paul Chirlin
 

The index card is a duplicate of the information on the manifest
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1075/m1464_368-0714?pid=5987201&backurl=https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D1075%26h%3D5987201%26tid%3D%26pid%3D%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DFPl2871%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=FPl2871&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&_ga=2.122149195.1370438784.1594562809-1207326651.1583011107
see all 3 pages of the manifest.
It seems Fanny was in the US from 1912 to Dec 1918, then went to Montreal for a few months, perhaps visiting someone, then on 10 May 1919 she was "examined" for returning permanently to the US. Some of the earlier pages have names of ships, but her page does not.  I don't know what a class C vs a class B alien might be. 

Familysearch has a much sharper copy of the alien manifest
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKQS-DYB9
as well as an additional index card
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK31-KC4V

You can search Montreal city directories on Stevemorse.  The 1918 and 1919 city directory at 198 Fifth only lists Jesse Ash

Aline Petzold
 

Eileen:
I grew up in Montreal, so I was curious about your request for help.  To my knowledge there is no "Fifth Avenue" in Montreal, although the name may have been changed since the early 1900s.  I did find out that there was an amusement park named "Dominion Park" on Notre Dame Street in Montreal built in 1910 and closed in 1937 <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Park>.  That is what I am guessing the Dom. Pk. part of the address refers to.
Good luck in your search.
Aline P.

Aline Petzold
 

Eileen:

I followed up on your request regarding your relative who visited Montreal in 1918.  I contacted the Quebec National Library/Archives and got a very complete response, including maps and directory information.  Apparently the street name changed in 1924-25 from Fifth Avenue to Sicard Ave. The neighborhood where it is located is on the eastern half of the island, generally to the south and southwest of the Olympic Stadium.  Its population is currently a mix of working-class  people, students, and recent immigrants.  I can forward the original email to you if you contact me privately.

Regards,
Aline Petzold
< linypetzold@...>