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Online trees #general


Stephen Katz
 

Based on personal experience, I advise anyone who asks not to put a tree on geni.com.
To put it simply, you lose control of the tree. I've had several instances of requesting others who've added clearly, almost laughably, wrong information to the tree, to correct or remove it, who have refused to do so. I once tried to delete the tree, only to find that once someone else has latched onto it, it can't be deleted. One's only option is to close one's account, but that doesn't delete the tree -- it remains. I decided not to close my account, just so I could see who was doing what to it.
My negative opinion of geni is not a matter of "religious belief," as one commenter has suggested; it's based on objective fact and experience. And as for the idea of a "one world tree" of all humanity, well, ....
Stephen Katz


Max Heffler
 

Facts (and fiction) cannot be controlled so either accurate or inaccurate information will eventually end up online and I prefer it to be accurate.

 

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Based on personal experience, I advise anyone who asks not to put a tree on geni.com.
To put it simply, you lose control of the tree. I've had several instances of requesting others who've added clearly, almost laughably, wrong information to the tree, to correct or remove it, who have refused to do so. I once tried to delete the tree, only to find that once someone else has latched onto it, it can't be deleted. One's only option is to close one's account, but that doesn't delete the tree -- it remains. I decided not to close my account, just so I could see who was doing what to it.
My negative opinion of geni is not a matter of "religious belief," as one commenter has suggested; it's based on objective fact and experience. And as for the idea of a "one world tree" of all humanity, well, ....
Stephen Katz

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Susan stone
 

Marcel...how do i share my tree in a pdf?  Parts of the tree?  You never just send an invite even so they can be a "guest">?   By the way, I have a relative who mixes up stuff on her tree too so someone's parent was born the same year as the child, etc.  cholent, Kishke and Kugel. 
Do you know my cousin Ariel (Chana) Oppenheimer in Antwerp?

susan Stone
Evanston, IL


Susan stone
 

JoAnne...What does siloed mean?  I started many family branches on my Ancestry tree but realized it was cumbersome.  Then I made ONE whole tree (otherwise I was adding photos and info to several cross over trees).  Did you do this?  
You mentioned a "subset">  

Susan Stone
Evanston , IL


Max Heffler
 

Silos, like grain storage, stand alone and separate. Since there are so many versions out there, the data is all over the place. I have people that have copied my tree at points in time, which I do not mind, but ther stay stale as I learn more and more corrections and refinements. That is why I prefer geni – one single place to keep things correct.

 

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JoAnne...What does siloed mean?  I started many family branches on my Ancestry tree but realized it was cumbersome.  Then I made ONE whole tree (otherwise I was adding photos and info to several cross over trees).  Did you do this?  
You mentioned a "subset">  

Susan Stone
Evanston , IL


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Marcel Apsel
 

I have my tree on FamilyTreeMaker which can be transferred to a Gedcom file.  As I mentioned before, once I gave the data file of my tree  to a cousin asking him only to share with family members.  He put it without my permission on geni, as I mentioned it too and it became a sholent, kigel and kishke.  I was very furious on him, because I have to respect privacy for some family members who are very strict on their privacy.  Of course that cousin could not take my tree off Geni and since then I never send a tree in any kind of a gedcom file, but download it in a PDF format which I can send to anybody of the family.

I know who Channa Oppenheimer is.  I used to be friendly with her mother and was invited on her parents wedding.  Her father ? Buchinger went back to the States and her mother, with whom I have no touch anymore, still lives in Antwerp, I suppose.  They live on Belgiëlei 161; a friend of mine used to live in the same apartment block.

Marcel Apsel

Antwerp, Belgium