Date
1 - 4 of 4
Ordering new record scans directly from the Polish State Archives: a how-to guide #poland
Asparagirl
Frank asked in a previous post about making wire transfers to the
Polish State Archives to buy copies of records. It's now so much easier than it used to be to get copies of records "ordered off the menu" from many of the small Polish State Archives branches. You no longer have to wait and hope that they will eventually scan an obscure record or book or microfilm that you want, from the tiny little town or region that you're researching. And you don't necessarily have to hire a genealogist to go in person for you, either. You can just research and pick the record(s) you want from their catalog, e-mail the archives branch directly and ask for a price quote, pay the archives branch directly, and have the new files on your laptop a week later! I've done this for three different archives branches in Poland just in the past few month, for the branches in Poznan (formerly Posen), Gorzow Wielkopolski (formerly Landsberg an der Warthe), and Bydgoszcz (formerly Bromberg). And I have been happily surprised by the new ease and relatively low cost in getting files. Some archives branches may be busier or less responsive to e-mails or more expensive, but at least in the western part of the country, I have only nice things to report. One of the archives couldn't scan the particular file I wanted (a population list for the late 19th century) because it was too fragile to be handled without having conservation work done first, but the archivists did offer to do research and do name look-ups for me in the file instead, and they did so...for only 75 PLN, which was only $18.37 USD! But assuming the records you want are in decent condition, the rate I've been quoted by the various archives lately is only 2 PLN per scan, which is $0.24-0.25 per page, very reasonable! The scans are in color and gorgeous quality, not just digitizations of the old black and white microfilms. Better yet, the new scans are then eventually uploaded to the main Polish State Archives catalog website, "Szukaj w Archiwach" ("Search in Archives") at http://szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/ and are attached to the specific "items" (books) in the catalog, so that everyone everywhere can now see and use those new scans, going forwards. In this way, one could hypothetically sponsor the digitization of many books or records from your particular town of interest. And if you're lucky, someone or some group will eventually notice the new image files are now online there, transcribe them, and add the text data to the many genealogy databases we all know and use. For example, these particular towns I am researching were all once in Prussia, and the records were civil records (not specific to any particular religion) and written in German, so it's likely eventually they could end up transcribed by volunteers and made searchable on a genealogy website like BaSIA (http://basia.famula.pl/), which specifically covers Prussian records. Of course, JewishGen or JRI-Poland or anyone else could certainly put together a transcription project, too. But having the image files be made so easily available is the crucial first step. Here's a real world example of how this works, start to finish. I recently wanted to get the 1874-1876 birth and death records, six books in total, for a certain Prussian town. I found out that the records existed in the first place by using the sometimes unwieldy "Szukaj w Archiwach" website, and searching for the town name, plus every variation of the town name I could think of (since Polish adds suffixes to nouns). The site said the books did exist and were kept in the Poznan branch of the Polish State Archives. The archives had already scanned or microfilmed many of the vital records for later years for this town, and those scans are mostly online already on the "Szukaj w Archiwach" site, but they had oddly missed these three years. And no, FamilySearch doesn't have any microfilms for those years in this town either. I then found the Poznan branch's official e-mail address, wrote up a request for a price quote to scan the books, translated it into Polish with Google Translate, and e-mailed them my request. They responded in a few days. The total cost for scanning the six books, based on their exact page count, was quoted to me as 1320 PLN, which is about $323.25 in USD, which is a very good price for over a thousand birth and death records. (For comparison, ordering a single New York State death certificate copy will currently cost you $45, plus an $8 vendor handling charge, if you want a certified copy, or $22 for an uncertified "genealogy" copy, yikes.) So I added the Polish State Archives' Poznan branch bank account information (i.e. the name and the IBAN number) in my Wise account, saving it to my list of recipient accounts -- so I won't have to re-add it if I want to order some more records some day. ;-) I then added funds to my USD "bucket" within Wise, which you can do by moving money from your own linked bank account using ACH, or even adding funds from a credit card or from Apple Pay if you want the funds faster (but with a bigger fee in those cases). And then I moved the funds over to the PLN "bucket" still within my Wise account. And then I sent the funds in PLN from there to the archive's account, all for the low low fee of 2.03 PLN -- which is *fifty cents* in USD! Much better than a $75 bank wire fee from a typical US bank account, and so much easier, too. The funds arrived in Poland in two days. The archives immediately made and sent me the scans (via the file-sharing website WeTransfer) as a big.zip file. And then they also uploaded them all to the "Szukaj w Archiwach" catalog a day or two later. Easy peasy! And now I have 1200+ birth and death records to go through on my laptop. So, to sum up: - Use the "Szukaj w Archiwach" ("Search in Archives") at http://szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/ to see what kinds of files are held at various little Polish State Archives branches. There's tons of amazing stuff in there that has never been cataloged before, all kinds of population lists and tax lists and even vital records (both Jewish and civil) and Jewish cemetery lists that have never appeared in any databases. It's mostly in Polish (and sometimes German, for Prussian areas) so you'll need to translate with Google Translate or Google Chrome. The site is slow, but if you create a login, you can save items to your "favorites" list and come back to them later. - Find specific items in that catalog that look interesting and note their full exact item numbers, such as "53/1965/0/1/4", which is the finding aid number. - Note which archive branch holds that particular item/book/microfilm and e-mail them, in Polish, asking politely for a price quote. - Use the app "Wise" to convert between various currencies at a very low rate, and also to send that money to overseas archives for incredibly low rates. - Enjoy lots of new genealogy records. :-) - Brooke Schreier Ganz Mill Valley, CA
|
|
I've received instructions from the Krakow archives on how to send them 3 Zlotis - I would like to save on fees by using the Wise app but when I enter the account number, it does not let me enter the letters after it. I selected "local bank account" and not IBAN.
See the account details - how do I enter it on wise please?: Thank you in advance! Shosh Eizenshtein, Toronto In response to your inquiry, the National Archives in Krakow kindly informs you that the amount of PLN 3 should be paid (via another bank) to the account of the National Archives in Krakow, 30-960 Krakow, ul. Sienna 16, located at the National Bank of Poland, District Branch in Krakow: 90 1010 1270 0009 0922 3100 0000 BIC NBPLPLPW.
In the field - payment title - please enter the reference number
|
|
mbekken@...
On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 04:28 PM, Asparagirl wrote:
Szukaj w ArchiwachI am trying to find a birth certificate for my father-in-law (Rosenbaum or Rozenbaum) who was born in Pruzhana/Pruzhany in 1924. I don't see how to find what is in the results? Marijke Bekken Reno NV
|
|
Michael Tobias
Birth records under 100 years old are not normally at the Polish State Archives branches but at the civil records office in the town. You can Google "urzad stanu cywilnego" for the town of interest to find their address.
Michael Tobias Glasgow, Scotland
|
|