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Vivs
 

Hello

As an attempt to trace this family back into the old country, one step is figuring out which towns these are (The birth locations of the husband and wife)  Presumably they'd be near to one another as their first child was born in Poland.

 


Vivs Laliberte
Garden Grove, Calif.

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Susan&David
 

Vivs:

Because of arranged marriages, your assumption that the towns are near each other may not be correct.

His town is Sluck/Slutsk     https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/jgcd.php
His NY arrival, as Aisik HELFMAN,  was aboard the Vaderland, March 7, 1904, age 22, married, from Sluck. He traveled alone.  (Ancestry.com)
Her town much harder to determine.  Also her ship not as easy to find.  The town might be clearer there.  Do you have a census record with her year of immigration?
One other thing to consider-  He gave the information on the form, which may have been written by another person as he dictated the answers. 

David Rosen
Boston, MA

On 9/26/2020 4:17 PM, Vivs wrote:
Hello

As an attempt to trace this family back into the old country, one step is figuring out which towns these are (The birth locations of the husband and wife)  Presumably they'd be near to one another as their first child was born in Poland.

 


Vivs Laliberte
Garden Grove, Calif.

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Vivs
 

David
 WOW I am duly impressed.  I was trying to find Glusk to no good luck.  And kudos on the Aisik Helfman , I would never have found that! =] Much appreciated

1910 and 1920 censuses both say 1906, 1930 says 1905.  Yitty or Etta or Itke, surname possibly Ruthstein 

Thanks
Vivs Laliberte

 


Vivs
 

David

Ferok Chaymann
Arrival Date3 May 1904
Birth Date1882
Age22
GenderMale
Ethnicity/ NationalityHebrew
Port of DepartureAntwerp, Belgium
Port of ArrivalNew York, New York, USA
Ship NameVaderland


Actually, I wonder if this is not him. The date is more consistent as is the surname  

As to the wife, she would have been traveling with her infant daughter Bessie born 1904

I will keep looking 
Vivs Laliberte

 

Vivs Laliberte


ewkent@...
 

Hi to Vivs Laliberte (and everyone else who will read this).

I don't think I've seen anyone try to read the wife's birthplace -- which looks to me like "Pashika, Poland, Russia".

The JewishGen Gazetteer  -- here: https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp -- lists rather-more-than-one place name in Eastern Europe from a phonetic search for "Pashika".

I (myself) would have guessed the most-likely candidate to be a "Pasika" (other names/spellings given are "Kishkhidveg" (from Hungarian?) and "Paseka" -- but that place (now in Ukraine) seems to be hundreds of miles (and more kilometers from Slutsk; I see listed in Belarus (Slutsk is in Belarus) 3 different "Paseka"s, 1 "Paseki", and 1 "Pasiki" [Shrug}.

I don't really know Belarus geography (and am barely better about Eastern European geography more-generally) -- but maybe someone here could figure out which near-"Pashika" would have been closes to Slutsk (or otherwise provide an opinion about where the wife's "Pashika" would have been?

Good Luck to you, Vivs Laliberte.

Ethan Kent -- in New York City.