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Relationship question

Josephine Rosenblum
 

Allen and Betty marry and have a son--Charles.
They divorce.
Allen and Daisy marry and have a son--Edgar.
[Have you noticed that the names are in alphabetical order, for clarity.]
Facts:
Allen is the father of Charles and Edgar.
Daisy is the step-mother of Charles and the mother of Edgar.
Betty is the mother of Charles.
Is Betty the step-mother of Edgar?
Why or why not?
Thanks in advance for your opinion.

Alan Steinfeld
 

Betty is NOT the step mother of Edgar.  For this to be true, she would have to be currently married to Allen.

Good question.

Happy Thanksgiving to all


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Allen and Betty marry and have a son--Charles.
They divorce.
Allen and Daisy marry and have a son--Edgar.
[Have you noticed that the names are in alphabetical order, for clarity.]
Facts:
Allen is the father of Charles and Edgar.
Daisy is the step-mother of Charles and the mother of Edgar.
Betty is the mother of Charles.
Is Betty the step-mother of Edgar?
Why or why not?
Thanks in advance for your opinion.

rv Kaplan
 

I reckon that Charles and Edgar are half brothers, sharing the same father.  Betty isn't the step-mother of Edgar, as she is no longer married to Edgar's father. 

Harvey Kaplan
Glasgow, Scotland


On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 at 00:45, <JoRose@...> wrote:
Allen and Betty marry and have a son--Charles.
They divorce.
Allen and Daisy marry and have a son--Edgar.
[Have you noticed that the names are in alphabetical order, for clarity.]
Facts:
Allen is the father of Charles and Edgar.
Daisy is the step-mother of Charles and the mother of Edgar.
Betty is the mother of Charles.
Is Betty the step-mother of Edgar?
Why or why not?
Thanks in advance for your opinion.

gandmbc@...
 

Betty is the step-mother of Edgar; Alan is the step-father of Edgar

Daisy is the step-mother of Charles

Step-parents are married to the natural fathers or mothers of children.

I have 2 step-daughters - each of them are children of my husband, who was married twice before I met him, so they each have a different mother.

I pity family historians in the future!



Trudy Barch
 


Betty is NOT legally related to Edgar.   Being that it is her current husband's son from his first marriage and assuming that he has visitation rights.....Edgar might refer to her as Betty or mother out of respect.   Also depends upon Edgar's age when the 2nd marriage occurred.  Was Edgar a child or adult?  Also different scenario IF Betty adopted Edgar.  Also depends upon what year you are referring - in the 1940s children did not call adults by their first name.  In the 2000s first names are accepted by most adults.

Alberto Guido Chester
 

I love your question.

The key part, in my view, is why NOT, and the answer is cultural, not logical.

There is a chance that the second wife helps raising the child to justify the attribution of step mother.

Or it can be used to stress the step mother is not the biological mother.

In Spanish (as spoken in Argentina at least), the child would be "hijo de la primera mujer" = son of his first spouse.

BTW, step mother as an attribution is decreasing steeply probably because of Cinderella and other sour examples.

Regards


Alberto Guido Chester

jbonline1111@...
 

Betty is NOT the stepmother of Edgar as she is not married to Edgar's father and was not married to him when he was born. Of course, if for some reason she is involved with the family due to sharing Charles with Allen and his family, she might be given the honorific of stepmother, but that is not a legal designation.  Furthermore, if Daisy divorces Allen, she may or may not be the stepmother of Charles any longer.  That depends on whether Daisy and Charles choose to continue that relationship.