Restoration of German Citizenship #germany


bethchardack@...
 

I recently heard that Germany has a "Restoration of German Citizenship" project, which would reinstate (dual) German citizenship to Americans who were former German citizens (and their descendants) who were deprived of their German citizenship due to persecution on political, racial or religious grounds between January 30, 1933 and May 8, 1945. Does anyone have any insights on this program and thoughts on potential benefits (access to research materials?) or detriments (possible taxes?)? Here's the link: https://www.germany.info/us-en/service/03-Citizenship/restoration-of-german-citizenship/925120.
Thank you. 
Beth Chardack


David Lewin
 

At 13:28 16/03/2021, bethchardack via groups.jewishgen.org wrote:
I recently heard that Germany has a "Restoration of German Citizenship" project, which would reinstate (dual) German citizenship to Americans who were former German citizens (and their descendants) who were deprived of their German citizenship due to persecution on political, racial or religious grounds between January 30, 1933 and May 8, 1945. Does anyone have any insights on this program and thoughts on potential benefits (access to research materials?) or detriments (possible taxes?)? Here's the link: https://www.germany.info/us-en/service/03-Citizenship/restoration-of-german-citizenship/925120 .
Thank you.
Beth Chardack

I am in London, not the USA - but the basis is the same

I have had my German Nationality restored under this Process.   Very simple, just contact a German consulate - they will guide you.

I did so not because I wanted it,   Rather to enable my children to work in Europe after the idiotic exodus of the UK from Europe - or Brexit as it became known.

David Lewin
London


JoAnne Goldberg
 

I am only familiar with the process for US citizens...

A German Supreme Court decision last May opened citizenship restoration to many more people. One of my friends, who had applied years earlier, was able to readily complete the process after that decision.  I've submitted all the paperwork for myself and my son, and am now waiting to get an appointment at the local consulate.

The United States website/UI is not the greatest, but I found a helpful intern at my consulate, plus the fact that my mother can read/write German enabled me to understand what they wanted.

Advantages: German citizenship gives you access to the EU, helpful if you're thinking of living/working there for a period of time. If you are a resident, you will have to pay those taxes, and of course the US always wants its cut. The arm of the IRS is long.

JoAnne

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JoAnne Goldberg - Menlo Park, California; GEDmatch M131535
BLOCH, SEGAL, FRIDMAN, KAMINSKY, PLOTNIK/KIN -- LIthuania
GOLDSCHMIDT, HAMMERSCHLAG,HEILBRUNN, REIS(S), EDELMUTH, ROTHSCHILD, SPEI(Y)ER -- Hesse, Germany
COHEN, KAMP, HARFF, FLECK, FRÖHLICH, HAUSMANN,  DANIEL  -- Rhineland, Germany

 


David Seldner
 

I also did it a few years ago. It is a relatively simple process. Advantages: You can live (and work) anywhere in the EU. You can vote (if you consider this to be an advantage).
Disadvantages: none. No taxes, unless you live in Germany (I do, so I pay taxes in Germany and in the US, but there is a treaty).
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David Seldner, Karlsruhe, Germany
seldner@...


Tina Isaacs
 

Like David, I too took German citizenship in order to ensure that my children had the right to live and work in the EU.  I used an agency to help find some documentation that I couldn't easily access myself.  The bonus for doing this was that it sparked my interest in family history, about which I knew almost nothing.
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Tina Isaacs
London, England


Richard Oppenheimer
 

I live in the US and I have applied for German citizenship under Article 116. I was able to provide the necessary proof, but the waiting period is extremely long. I applied in June 2019, and at that time was told I would have to wait 18-24 months for final approval. Brexit and the Covid pandemic only helped to slow down the process even more. I am still waiting 22 months later. The German Consulate in Miami was extremely helpful in pre-screening my application for the necessary supporting documents.
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Richard Oppenheimer
Venice, Florida, USA


Judith Elam
 

I obtained German citizenship almost 5 years ago.  The requirements are quite specific and it is taking at least 2 years to obtain.  Brexit fueled a lot of applications.  I was already British and American.  I didn't really need it.  I just simply wanted back a small part of what was stolen from my family.  For me this was a huge step in my journey of reconciliation with the past.  But I will never forget or forgive what happened.  So there are many reasons for people applying......and they are all valid.

Judith Nathan Elam
Kihei, HI


David Lewin
 

That waiting time is clearly governed by one's age. I was in my 80's and had virtually no wait for the acceptance

David Lewin
London


At 11:23 17/03/2021, r.d.oppenheimer@... wrote:
I live in the US and I have applied for German citizenship under Article 116. I was able to provide the necessary proof, but the waiting period is extremely long. I applied in June 2019, and at that time was told I would have to wait 18-24 months for final approval. Brexit and the Covid pandemic only helped to slow down the process even more. I am still waiting 22 months later. The German Consulate in Miami was extremely helpful in pre-screening my application for the necessary supporting documents.
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Richard Oppenheimer
Venice, Florida, USA


Connie
 

I applied for restored German citizenship and received it -- it took over a year. I was able to pick up my naturalization paper at the honorary consulate in Cincinnati rather than go to Chicago. The consul was very helpful and at the same time I applied for a German passport, which I received about 6 weeks later.

Connie Springer
Cincinnati OH


Awesome Properties
 

Can you restore citizenship to descendents in Ukraine as well ? What would process be? My grandparents came from Beregsaz , formerly Czechoslovakia , now Berehove , Ukraine. Would it apply as well?
Thank you,
Rachel Malik
HERSCKOVITS Illeanda Romania
TESZLER Petri,  Barsana ,Birsana,Romania
FRIEDMAN Oradea, Marghita , Romania
LEITMAN Saniob , Romania
DEUTSCH Covacs 


Peter Heilbrunn
 

Hi,

 

I too obtained German citizenship. It took 18 months. I went along to the German embassy in London and received by citizenship certificate, a lapel badge showing the British and German flags and finally a small bag of Haribo Gummy Bears inscribed with “From the Foreign ministry. As I love Gummy Bears, I thought this was a nice touch.

 

Regards,

 

Peter

 

Peter Heilbrunn

Tel +44 (0)1494 725966

Amersham England

 


Peter Cohen
 

A close friend is a Holocaust survivor who left Germany for the US after Kristalnacht. She was able to recover her German citizenship. Not only that, even her grandchildren gained German citizenship.  This enabled her granddaughter to live and work in Ireland for a year.

I understand that Lithuania has a similar program. However I do not know how I would prove that my grandfather was born there since he changed his name from Kemakh to Cohen in the US and there is no documentation of the change. Although he is Kemakh on the ship's manifest, I don't see how I can prove that he and the person on the manifest are the same person.
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Peter Cohen
California


Josh Freeling
 

I contacted my local honorary consulate a few years ago to see if they could assist me in this, as the local consulate is in Atlanta.
They had absolutely no idea what I was talking about and were of no help whatsoever.
I kind of gave up.
I want to do this however, as does my mother.
Both her parents fled Germany.
Her mother and her parents all were able to get to Italy and came to America in 1940.
Her father was a Kindertransport. Went to England in 1939. Both of his parents were sent to the Warsaw Ghetto and perished.
99.9% sure we qualify.
I'll have to try again!

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Josh Freeling
North Carolina


David Seldner
 

Josh,
Honorary consulates are not really that informed. There is a lot of info on the Internet, you only have to tell them "Grundgesetz Artikel 116, Abs. 2"

Unfortunately, this page is onyl in German but I remember to have seen similar information in English, too.
https://www.bva.bund.de/DE/Services/Buerger/Ausweis-Dokumente-Recht/Staatsangehoerigkeit/Einbuergerung/Anspruch/EinbuergerungA_node.html
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David Seldner, Karlsruhe, Germany
seldner@...


JoAnne Goldberg
 

Here's the link:

https://www.bva.bund.de/DE/Services/Buerger/Ausweis-Dokumente-Recht/Staatsangehoerigkeit/Einbuergerung/Anspruch/02-Vordrucke_E_A/02_04_E_A_Paket/02_04_EA_Paket_node.html

Scroll down to package 4/paket 4 for the English version. Note that it
must be completed in German, but Google translate got me 95% of the way
there.

JoAnne
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JoAnne Goldberg - Menlo Park, California; GEDmatch M131535
BLOCH, SEGAL, FRIDMAN, KAMINSKY, PLOTNIK/KIN -- LIthuania
GOLDSCHMIDT, HAMMERSCHLAG,HEILBRUNN, REIS(S), EDELMUTH, ROTHSCHILD, SPEI(Y)ER -- Hesse, Germany
COHEN, KAMP, HARFF, FLECK, FRÖHLICH, HAUSMANN,  DANIEL  -- Rhineland, Germany