route from Cherkassy, Ukraine to Manchester, England #general


estherahr@...
 


 I am interested in knowing what route my grandmother's family took when they went from Cherkassy, Ukraine to Manchester, England in the end of the 19-beginning of the 20
]century. They did not have too much money and lived in a poor nieghborhood in Manchester Thank you, ESTHER

Esther (Herschamn) Rechtschafner
 
 
 
 
 


rv Kaplan
 

My grandmother etc travelled from Kaminets-Podolsk, Ukraine in 1906 to Glasgow, Scotland in 1906 via Rotterdam, if that helps.

Harvey Kaplan
Glasgow

FELMAN, Kaminets-Podolsk, Shatava
ROSENBLOOM, Kaminets-Podolsk
MILER, Kaminets-Podolsk, Balin

On Wed, 29 Sept 2021 at 17:11, <estherahr@...> wrote:

 I am interested in knowing what route my grandmother's family took when they went from Cherkassy, Ukraine to Manchester, England in the end of the 19-beginning of the 20
]century. They did not have too much money and lived in a poor nieghborhood in Manchester Thank you, ESTHER

Esther (Herschamn) Rechtschafner
 
 
 
 
 


NormK12065
 

An uncle of mine kept a record of the family's travel from Katerinopol/Ekaterinopol in the Cherkasy Oblast to a ship leaving from Libau, Latvia.
I guess the travel time and the distance between towns could indicate method of travel i.e. cart, train, etc.
This document was originally written in Cyrillic and is a wonderful piece of family history.
                                      2 June 1923  Departed Ekaterinopol, Ukraine

                                    5 June 1923  Arrived Kiev

                                  11 June 1923  Departed Kiev

                                  13 June 1923  Arrived Moscow

                                  20 June 1923  Departed Moscow

                                  21 June 1923  Arrived Rezekne, Latvia

                                  22 June 1923  Departed Rezekne, Latvia

                                  23 June 1923  Arrived Riga, Latvia

                                                         (This is where they got the passports)

                                  25 June 1923  Departed Riga, Latvia

                                  26 June 1923  Arrived Libau, Latvia

                                  16 July  1923  Departed Libau, Latvia on board ship.

                                  29 July  1923  Arrived Halifax, Nova Scotia
Norm Katz


Alan Shuchat
 

Many people took boats from Libau in the Russian Empire (now Liepaja, Latvia) to ports on the coast of England such as Hull, Grimsby, and London. Some stayed in England and others continued their journey to North America or South Africa. There don't seem to be records documenting their arrival in England, but if they left England the Outward Manifests on Ancestry may show how they got there. For example, my mother, grandmother, and aunt left southern Ukraine in 1926, traveled by train to Leningrad and Liepaja, landed in London, took a train to Southampton, and then a ship to Quebec. In England, they stayed at the Atlantic Park Hostel in Eastleigh until their departure for Canada. 
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Alan Shuchat
Newton, MA

SHUKHAT (Talnoe, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Odessa, Balta (Abazovka), Pogrebishche)
VINOKUR (Talnoe), KURIS (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Berdichev)
ZILBERMAN (Soroki, Kremenets), BIRNBAUM (Kamenets-Podolskiy)
KITAIGORODSKI (Zvenigorodka)


estherahr@...
 

Thank you for your replies,Previouls I wondered if thy didnot go south to the port in Odessa.Alan Shukat-please chekout my Simferopol wwebsite. I hope youhave some information for me to put on this site. Thanking you in advance.  estherahr@...
Esther (Herschman) Rechtschafner


Ruth
 

My great grandmother, 2 great uncles and a cousin left Kaminetz Podolsk (Ukraine) in 1913.  They travelled by horse and cart over the nearby border into Austria.  They then went by train in a goods type wagon to Vienna.  From Vienna they travelled to Bremen and from there by boat to London.  From London they caught a train to Manchester to be reunited with with my grandfather and another great uncle who had made the journey a few years previously.  

Ruth Bloomfield
London


Ellen Slotoroff Zyroff
 

My father's first cousin told me that her mother told her that she (the mother, Chaike) and her younger brother (Ilya Anshul), with ship tickets/or perhaps vouchers paid for in the U.S. by their older sister (my grandmother), who was already settled for a good number of years in NJ, walked from Ukraine across Europe by night, until they reached Le Havre, the port from which their ship left on its route to the U.S. The reason (or perhaps one reason) they did it this way (also they, too, were very poor), according to my dad's cousin is that her mom and/or uncle feared danger en route by foot, since Chaike was a beautiful red-head young woman.

I've read that those who walked the long distances on their way out of Europe were known as "Fussgehers."


Ellen Slotoroff Zyroff

Searching: ZOLOTAROV; SLOTOROFF (Ukraine); LEVINE (Ukraine); ROTH/ROT/RUT (Bessarabia); PEISTERMAN (Bessarabia); ZYRO (Poland and Galicia); TAU?(Galicia);TESLER (Volynia) LIMON (Volynia); KRANTZ (Ukraine); BRAFMAN (Poland); EICHEN (Poland)

On Wednesday, September 29, 2021, 09:11:24 AM PDT, <estherahr@...> wrote:



 I am interested in knowing what route my grandmother's family took when they went from Cherkassy, Ukraine to Manchester, England in the end of the 19-beginning of the 20
]century. They did not have too much money and lived in a poor nieghborhood in Manchester Thank you, ESTHER

Esther (Herschamn) Rechtschafner
 
 
 
 
 

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ZOLOTOROV (Chernigov, Ukraine; Kiev, Ukraine);
SLOTOROFF (Kiev, Ukraine)
CHARKOVSKY or SHARKOVSKY(Ukraine);
LEVINE (Ukraine and Minsk, Belarus);
GLUSKIN (Ukraine)
LIMON (Berestechko, Volynia, Ukraine)
TESLER (Horochiv, Volynia, Ukraine)
ZYRO (Zabolativ, Ukraine) 
TAU (Zalolativ, Ukraine)
PISTERMAN (Ukraine)
ROTH / ROT (Ataki, Bessarabia, Moldova)
BLAUSTEIN (Chernigov, Ukraine or Minsk, Belarus)


Harry Boonin
 

We, the DAVIDOVSKY family, are related to the Zolotorow family in Philadelphia; but I do not know the connection. The oldest family member we have knowledge of is Louis ZOLOTOROW, born August 15, 1875. He lived in Elizavetgrad and came to Philadelphia in 1898. The Davidovskys, Chaim BRONOVSKI, & Esther KUTCHER Nelkin, all from Elizavetgrad, noted on their manifest, that they were coming to join Louis ZOLOTOROW, a bookbinder in Philadelphia. From 1905 to 1936 the large ZOLOTOROW family lived at 705 Brown Street. They had a player piano in their living room.
(The only thing the DAVIDOVSKYS remember today about the ZOLOTOROWS is that player piano.)

Harry D. Boonin
Warrington, PA
harryboonin@...


Alan Shuchat
 

Esther Rechtschafner asks why emigrants from southern Ukraine did not go south to the port in Odessa. I also wonder about this. The Ellis Island website lists only 265 emigrants who left from Odessa during the years 1892-1924, all in 1906-1907 with a handful in 1922. Perhaps because Odessa was an important naval port, civilian emigration from there was restricted.
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Alan Shuchat
Newton, MA

SHUKHAT (Talnoe, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Odessa, Balta (Abazovka), Pogrebishche)
VINOKUR (Talnoe), KURIS (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Berdichev)
ZILBERMAN (Soroki, Kremenets), BIRNBAUM (Kamenets-Podolskiy)
KITAIGORODSKI (Zvenigorodka)