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Russia census 1897 #russia #records

ellar107@...
 

Is there a way to see Russian census 1897 online?

Ella Raber

Carol Rubin
 

On JewishGen.org

peggyfreedman@...
 

This question is more complicated than it looks.

The 1897 All Russia Census was not saved the way that American Census records have been saved with the total of census questionnaires still in the archives.

Copies of the 1897 All Russia Census were kept both locally and also by the Central Census Bureau in St. Petersburg.  But the 1897 Russian Census was taken for statistical purposes, and after the data had been analyzed, most of it was destroyed, only ten percent of the records were kept for statistical reference.

Several groups have found and transcribed the remaining ten percent of the records in the local archives (Lithuania, Latvia, and Grodno are the ones that I know about).  Those records are on JewishGen. But other records may be available in other local archives, or, possibly in whatever became of the Central Census Bureau in Imperial Russia.

The 1897 Russian Census is a wonderful resource for the places where the information was preserved, but not finding a family in it may only mean that those records were destroyed.

Peggy Mosinger Freedman

ellar107@...
 

Thank you, Peggy
It is unfortunate that a lot of records were destroyed in Russia/Ukraine. What is the best way to search for birth/marriage/death records in Kiev and Vinnitsa?

Ella Raber

rv Kaplan
 

In 2017, researcher Tomasz Jankowski found for me extracts from the 1897 Census for my ancestral town of Kaminets-Podolsk in Ukraine which list my grandparents and their families before they were married.  He estimates that 49% of the census records for this city have survived, but very few from other areas of Podolia.  This is the only time I have accessed the 1897 census - nothing doing for my ancestral towns in Lithuania and Poland.

Does anyone know if there are Austrian imperial census records which would cover Galicia?

Harvey Kaplan
Glasgow, Scotland 


On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 at 15:59, <ellar107@...> wrote:
Thank you, Peggy
It is unfortunate that a lot of records were destroyed in Russia/Ukraine. What is the best way to search for birth/marriage/death records in Kiev and Vinnitsa?

Ella Raber

Gary Pokrassa
 

Ella there is an entire wiki page posted by Alex Krakovsky for the 1897 census from the Kiev province at https://uk.wikisource.org/wiki/%D0%90%D1%80%D1%85%D1%96%D0%B2%D0%B8/%D0%94%D0%90%D0%9A%D0%9E/384

Gary Pokrassa
Data Acquisition Director
Ukraine Research Division

LarryBassist@...
 

I received a lot of images of Kiev and Vinnitsia records from https://jewua.info/jewish-genealogy-search-at-ukraine/ 
I think you can sign up and do some basic searches for free. Then if you pay they will let you do searches that show more information for more money they will send you images and for additional fees send translations. However I think most of Kiev and Vinnitsia images are available for free from Alex Krakovsky's website: https://www.tkfgen.org/open_sources_ak_p01.html 
He just gave an excellent webinar for JewishGen. There he discussed his Wikipedia website: https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%84%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B5_%D0%BC%D1%96%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%BA%D0%BE 
There you can click on translate to English if you have a modern browser. So it is much easier to use than the other one I gave.
Good luck,
Larry Bassist

Stanley Diamond
 

 
In addition those listed below, the 1897 Russian Census survived for many towns in
the proximity of the city of  Łomża.  There are more than 14,000 entries in this source.   
 
These are searchable online using the https://jri-poland.org/ multi-function search system.

Stanley Diamond, M.S.M.  (Montreal, 514-484-0100)
Executive Director, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, Inc.
 
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Re: Russia census 1897 #records #russia
From: peggyfreedman@...
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2020 09:25:12 EDT
This question is more complicated than it looks.

The 1897 All Russia Census was not saved the way that American Census records have been saved with the total of census questionnaires still in the archives.

Copies of the 1897 All Russia Census were kept both locally and also by the Central Census Bureau in St. Petersburg.  But the 1897 Russian Census was taken for statistical purposes, and after the data had been analyzed, most of it was destroyed, only ten percent of the records were kept for statistical reference.

Several groups have found and transcribed the remaining ten percent of the records in the local archives (Lithuania, Latvia, and Grodno are the ones that I know about).  Those records are on JewishGen. But other records may be available in other local archives, or, possibly in whatever became of the Central Census Bureau in Imperial Russia.

The 1897 Russian Census is a wonderful resource for the places where the information was preserved, but not finding a family in it may only mean that those records were destroyed.

Peggy Mosinger Freedman
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malka_f1
 

I have two questions re the Russian Census 1897. 
 
1.  Unless someone tells me otherwise, can I assume that the Russian census 1897 includes that part of Poland known variously as 'The Kingdom of Poland', 'Russian Poland' and 'Congress of Poland' which was part of the 19th century Tsarist Russian Empire until 1918?
 
2.  If the answer is affirmative ie that Russian Poland/Congress Poland was part of the Russian Empire, where is the Census held and how do I access it?
 
My interest is in the town of Warka (Yiddish Vurke, Russian Варка). about 25 miles south east of Warsaw and I believe was part of the Warsaw administrative area.  
 
In anticipation of information, thank you.
Regards
Malka Flekier, London, UK
PS: I can read cyrillic.
 

harold.love@...
 

Thanks. What button on the Wikipedia page do you hit to translate the third link into English. I don’t read Cyrillic. 

LarryBassist@...
 

In my browser it is not actually part of the page, but there is a Google Translate box in the upper right about 1 inch tall by about 2 inches wide that says: that has options for Ukrainian and English. It opens with Ukrainian highlighted above it, but you can click on English. It only shows up for me when I first click the link to the page to begin with. I am using Google Chrome browser.
Larry Bassist