Seeking correct name and location of "Rosopovitch", Belarus #belarus


Ronald Killian
 

Subject: Seeking correct name and location of “Rosopovitch” in Belarus 

 

My wife’s grandfather Morris (Moshe Mordechai) GARELICK was born in Parichi, Belarus in 1888. I have confirmed that the family moved to Bobruisk, about 1895-1897 based on my research (including the recorded birth of a brother in Bobruisk in 1897). Morris immigrated from Bobruisk to Rochester, New York in 1907. A grandniece of Morris recently gave me some notes from her conversation with Morris, in which he said that the family also had resided, when he was a young boy, in Sislovitch (which I believe is Svisloch near Bobruisk) and “Rosopovitch”. This surprised me, because he did not mention these two communities in two oral histories from the 1970s. The family thus would have moved twice between Parichi (residing there as late as 1888) and Bobruisk (1895-97). I have tried locating Rosopovitch or similar-named community but have not found it in Where Once We Walked, other books, and online sources. I expect the village or town would be in the same area as Parichi, Svisloch, or Bobruisk. I appreciate any help in identifying this community and its location.

 

Ronald Killian

Newton Centre, MA

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Janet Furba
 

To find Rosopovitch ask the Mogilev State Archive
I failed to find Rosopovitch in Russian:
https://maps.vlasenko.net/list/belarus/mogilevskaya/

Районы Могилёвской области — Википедия (wikipedia.org)
Могилёвская область — Википедия (wikipedia.org)
Janet Furba. Germany


Janet Furba
 

Районы Гродненской области — Википедия (wikipedia.org)
Rosopovitch, Rosopovitchi not found
Розопович, Разоповичи not found
Janet Furba, Germany


Michele Lock
 

Out of curiosity, I entered "Rosopovichi, Belarus" into Google maps, to see what it came up with. And it suggested that the town might be the current Asipovichy, located 26 miles northwest of Bobrusk, and about 15 miles southwest of Svisloch. The name of the town in Yiddish, according to the Jewishgen gazetter, was Osipovichi; it had a Jewish population of 755 in 1910. 

Perhaps 'Rosopovich' was a slight mishearing of Osipovitch. Just a thought.

When I've run into these inconsistencies, I gather together whatever records I can find on the individual and all their siblings, especially naturalization papers, WW II draft cards, and ship passenger lists. If Morris came to the US in 1907, his ship passenger list should have where his last place of residence, who and where were his closest relative back home, and his place of birth was.

And to add - I have found that some of my forebears were not certain exactly what town they were born in, especially if they left that town as a young child, either to move to another place in Russia, or to move to the US. 
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Michele Lock

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Ronald Killian
 

Michele,
I think you may have solved my Rosopovich question, or at least as close as we may get. Asipovichy (aka Osipovich) makes sense to me:
1) Asipovichy/Osipovich is very close to Rosopovich, and its location is proximate to Bobruisk and Svisloch, as well as to Parichi.
2) I know that Parichi was Morris GARELICK's birthplace, confirmed by recent research by Yuri Dorn's Belarus team.
3) Bobruisk was the last community that the family lived in before Morris immigrated to the US, this from his passenger list, naturalization papers, his oral histories, etc.
4) Morris's heavy Russian accent and imperfect English may have obscured his pronunciation of this town, as you suggested. His grand-niece had said that she did not know if she had heard him correctly, and she was attempting to spell the towns as she heard them, many years ago.
5) While we have confirmed his GARELICK family lived first in Parichi and later in Bobruisk, I do not believe there is a way of determining the other two locations and when they lived there, as it would have been for fairly short periods of time. Morris was born in Parichi in 1888, and the family moved to Bobruisk in the 1895-97 time period, based on certain records, so it would be fewer than 9 years that they would have moved to the other two communities before settling in Bobruisk. For now, I will go with the possible Asipovichy...with an asterisk.
Many thanks to you, Janet, and Sherri Bobish for your suggestions. and help.
Ronald Killian