I recently found the following through Ancestry but don't know what to
make of it.

U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007
Name Samuel Okun
Gender Male
Spouse 760952439
Child Louis Okun
Household Members
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I do have a cousin nam\d Louis Okun (deceased) who listed his father's
name as Sam. To the best of my knowledge however Sam never came to
the US so this likely isn't the same person. I'd still like to
understand what this is saying, especially with regard to just a
number being supplied for the spouse. Is there any way to find more
detailed information about this person?

June Genis
Hemet, CA
Researching: OKUN, GENIS, ETTINGER, KESLER/CHESLER. SUSMAN
(Russian/Polish Empire including modern Ukraine and Belarus)
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June Genis, 650--851-5224
Hemet, CA
Researching: GENIS, OKUN, SUSMAN, ETTINGER, KESSLER/CHESLER (Russian/Polish Empires)

Looks like a Social Security Number.

Harvey Kabaker
Silver Spring, Md.

When A person applies for a social security number they are asked a variety of questions including their parents names.  When the person dies and a claim is made against their social security either by a child (if under age) in the case of an early death or by a spouse then a "claim record" is generated,.  Additionally if a person reaches the age where they can draw Social security a claim is made as well...  This collection set is a newer one to be published,  though it contains data back for many years.  So a person's parents never had to immigrate to show up on the record.... 

Pull the record up again and click on the Louis's name and you will see more info.   I dont' know that  haveI've ever see a number for the mother's name..... did she happen to immigrate?  maybe that is her social security #.  Now that you have his ss# you can send off a request for his application which might have additional information. 

Katherine Block

The number listed for Spouse 760952439, is not a SSN.  Per the SSec website ssa.gov/employer/stateweb.htm where you can look up the place where a SSN was issued by its first three numbers

750-772

Not Issued

The SSN shown for Louis on ancestry begins with 157 was issued in New Jersey which may help in verifying if this is the correct Louis Okun

Paul Chirlin

June,

That is actually the Soc. Sec. application for Louis OKUN.  Soc. Sec. applications never list the applicant's child's name.  The database is showing all hits that contain the name Samuel OKUN, and confusingly, it shows the one that you found (which is for Samuel's son.)  This database has confounded researchers before.  The below info should clarify things.  The number after Mother's name is not a Soc. Sec. #, as it's the wrong # of digits.

Hope this helps,

Sherri Bobish

Name:	Louis Okun
Gender:	Male
Race:	White
Birth Date:	20 Oct 1893
Birth Place:	Soviet Union
Father:	Samuel Okun
Mother:	760952439
SSN:	157264934

"When A person applies for a social security number they are asked a variety of questions including their parents names.  When the person dies and a claim is made against their social security either by a child (if under age) in the case of an early death or by a spouse then a "claim record" is generated,."

This is what happens now. When I got my Social Security Number, it was at the bank, where they had a roll of cards in a typewriter.  Genealogists should all be conscious that everything changes with time. My parents didn't email Social Security when I was born, as there was no email. I didn't get a Social Security Number when I was born, as children didn't need them. You ggrandfather (or whatever) signed up in the 1930s when it started.

Yes, parents' names were taken, as well as date of birth, although Social Security didn't assume that they had the right birth date; there was a long list of sources for birth information, generally the earliest record of the person in the US. My mother was born in Buffalo, and she had a birth record originally, but she sent her copy to Albany for her teaching certificate. There was a fire in City Hall, so Social Security had to use other information for her proof of age: the earliest US census with her in it.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 09:20 AM, Sherri Bobish wrote:

The number after Mother's name is not a Soc. Sec. #, as it's the wrong # of digits.

760952439 is the same number of digits (9) as the number listed after SSN (157264934).  And the same number of digits (9) as my SSN.
 
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Stephen Weinstein
Camarillo, California, USA
stephenweinstein@...

Stephen Weinstein is correct!  I miscounted the digits.

Thank you,

Sherri Bobish