Tiktin Family of Rabbis #poland


KAREN SAUNDERS
 

Hello, I am wondering if anyone has access to records which may provide info./details on the parents of my ggggrandfather Abraham ben Gedaliah Tiktin
With many thanks.
Karen Saunders
- researching Tiktin, Wallerstein, Horowitz, Davidow, Stern, Frank
 
Abraham ben Gedaliah Tiktin
Prussian rabbi
 

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Born: 24 December 1764, Swarzędz, Poland
Died: 27 December 1820, Wrocław, Poland

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Hello. I would like to join to research info about my 4 x g grandfather Abraham ben Gedaliah Tiktin 1764 - 1820. With thx.


sydney@...
 

I am also related . The Storch Synagogue in Wroclaw might have records. Elyse Eisenberg whom i cc here also has done some research. At Storch Synagogue, contact
Bente Kahan or her Foundation.
Sydney Levine
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Sydney J. Levine
Los Angeles CA and Berlin, Germany


sydney@...
 

Dear Karen Saunders,

 

I hope any replies to you can be shared with me.

 

My relationship to Rabbi Gedaliah Tiktin is as a distant cousin. He performed the marriage of my great grandmother Selma Weinbaum (descended from Rabbi Chaim ben Aron Kroner of Dyhernfurth) to my great grandfather Leo Schwarz (descended from Rabbi Chaim Schwarz of Kempen, Posen) in 1884 in Dyhernfurth, 10 km north of Breslau (Wroclaw).

 

We have a letter from Selma’s Titktin cousins. The letter is dated September 8, 1885 from Breslau and they are from an E. Tiktin, her daughter Emma Tiktin and her husband Erich Albert Tiktin.

 

As far as I can trace it, my great grandmother (Fanny Kroner)'s grandmother, Sarah Landau, was a sister to Rachel Wolff Landau who married Solomon Tiktin.There are Landaus buried in the Jewish cemetery on Lohestrasse in Breslau.

 

The White Stork Synagogue in Breslau, whose reconstruction was organized by Bente Kahan and her foundation, have the Tiktins in their temporary exhibition and Bente may know where to find more records…she does not answer me however since I donated a pulpit sized Pentateuch illustrated by Gustav Dore with an Ex-Libris from Breslau.

bente@...

 

Bente Kahan Foundation

Wroclaw Center for Jewish Culture and Education

in The White Stork Synagogue

 

www.fbk.org.pl

www.bentekahan.eu

 

 

 

Here is more information I have found in my own searches:

Per die Juden in Deutschland von der Romerzeit bis zur Weimarere Republik by Nachum T. Gidal,  copy of lithograph from Inkunable der vier Gebruder Henschel, 1812 says "Rabbi Abraham Ticktin (1764-1820), Oberlandesrabbiner zu Breslau.  Wie seine Vorfahren und Nachkommen, war Abraham Ticktin ein Reprasentat orthdoxen Judentums." Rabbi Abraham Ticktin, Chief Rabbi of Breslau.  As his ancestors and his descendants, he was a representative of Orthodox Judaism.  Portrait on p. 126.

 

No answer from Max Tiktin whose address is below this narrative:

 

Gedalye = Daniel

 

Gedalja Tiktin, born in 1808 in Czestochowa, was a royal rabbi in Silesia and belonged to the orthodox circle of the "Landschul" (Antoniengasse) in Breslau. In 1843 he was elected rabbi by members of this old religious group and then officially represented the interests of the local Orthodox. By cabinet order (1854) he was appointed State Rabbi of Silesia by the Prussian King Friedrich Wilhelm IV. Conflicts within the divided community (with the reform-oriented Breslau city rabbi Abraham Geiger at the time) were only settled under Rabbi Manuel Joel. Gedalja Tiktin, whose commitment to social causes was widely recognized, died in Breslau in 1886.

 

Buried in Breslau Jewish Cemetery on Lohestrasses (now Slezna), tombstone is an obelisk written entirely in Hebrew.  Next to him is smaller obelisk of wife, and then a smaller obelisk of his daughter.  Writing solely in Hebrew was a protest against Germanization i.e., assimilation of the Jewish people.  In the Breslau Jewish Cemetery booklet bought there, the location of his grave is #75.

 

This is a very bad translation:

In Dyhernfurth appeared in 1772, the first Jewish newspaper in the German Reich ( "Privileged Dyhernfurter newspaper"); there were texts German-made in Hebrew. 1834 in the print shop's last work was published; the publisher was six years later finally closed. 

 

In the following years, gradually increased the number of Jews living in Dyhernfurth; however they needed the approval of the Royal. Chamber and the local manorial. With their right of establishment is not permission to local trade was connected; at most they could seek for trading the Fairs Silesia.

 

After initially a room was used in the printing plant as prayer hall, built at the beginning of the 18th century an inconspicuous synagogue; this was then replaced by another house in the Judengasse due to disrepair 1785 to Mid-19th century was the time already shrinking community in Flurstraße build a new synagogue building that purely external rather resembled a village church or chapel and as a special feature probably had a bell. The solemn consecration was consummated in January 1848 from Brzeger Rabbi Kroner and the Wroclaw Orthodox Chief Rabbi Gedalie Tiktin.

 

Challenge Memorandum 1894 - my great-great grandfather’s dairy, in which he wrote: August 8: "1886 gest Konigl ? und Gedalye Tiktin in Breslau" 

 

>Jewish Encyclopedia, 1911:  Rabbi in Breslau 1843.

 

>Per Sydney Levine:  In 1998 I was speaking with -- who said he knew Max Tiktin who was a professor at George Washington University.  I had his address from Elyse Eisenberg who also traces her family back to a Tiktin. [ If you want this, please ask me directly]  I wrote him an inquiry letter as did Elyse (cc’d here), but we got no response.

 

Please let me know of any responses you receive.

 

Thank you!

Sydney Levine

SydneyJLevine@...

 

 

 


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Sydney J. Levine
Los Angeles CA and Berlin, Germany


David Seldner
 

There are 1.5 pages in the "Biographisches Handbuch der Rabbiner", I have copied and am pasting
the main information about his life here, there are references where you can find more about him.
Use DeepL or google to translate the text, there are more Tiktins in there, too. I recommend to
download the book if you want to know more.

1775 TIKTIN, Abraham, gen. Pätah. ha-Bayith, geb. 24. Dez. 1764 in Swarzędz (Schwersenz),
Großpolen, gest. 27. Dez. 1820 in Breslau. - Sohn des Gedalja aus Tykocin bei Białystok, des
„Dajan von Schwersenz“, und seiner Frau Freidel. Erziehung nach dem Tode des Vaters (1773)
durch die Ehemänner seiner Schwestern Jitte und Eidel, den Rb. Isaak-Mordechai b. Baruch in
Grodzisk (Grätz) und den Posener Dajan Jakob; nach seiner Heirat mit Esther Kuttner (Kutschinski),
Tochter des Aron K., lebt er 12 Jahre lernend u. lehrend bei seinen Schwiegereltern in Swarzędz,
ernährt sich vom Handel, versieht seit 1797 kurzzeitig auch das örtliche Rabbinat. Später
Rb. in Łęczyca (Luntschütz) in Russ.-Großpolen, 1803 Oberrb. in Glogau, übt dort bis zum Gesetz
von 1812 auch zivilrichterliche Funktionen aus; 12. Okt. 1816 „Oberlandesrabbiner bei der
Schlesischen Gemeinde“ mit Sitz in Breslau und 750 Tl. Gehalt; er galt bei seiner Anstellung als
ein Mann, der „nicht bloß die erforderlichen rabbinischen Kenntnisse besitzt und als rechtschaffen
bekannt ist, sondern zugleich auch befähigt ist, die erbaulichen Vorträge und Reden in der
Landessprache gehörig zu halten und die erforderlichen Eigenschaften besitzt, der ihm anvertrauten
Gemeinde ein liebevoller Führer und ein weiser Ratgeber zu sein“ (Lucas und Heitmann, S.
247f.). 1819 trägt er zu den ’Eläh divrē ha-berīth bei. Hatte kurz vor seinem Tode einen Ruf auf
das Fürther Oberrt. angenommen. Seine Frau erhielt in Breslau eine Pension von 400 Tl.

Good luck and best wishes!
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David Seldner, Karlsruhe, Germany
seldner@...


sfalkjd@...
 

The "Biographisches Handbuch der Rabbiner" is a good resource.  I do not think you will find any useful information from contacting the very talented Bente Kahan in Wroclaw. Genealogy and historical records are not her expertise.  Likewise, the Wroclaw Jewish community does not have any particular resources to address such questions.

Abraham Gedaliah TIKTIN is included in the Glogau Jewish family register from 1812.  There, his birth date is given as 1 Dec 1751, much more likely since he married on 13 Dec 1771 and had his first (known to me) son in 1773.  R. Abraham TIKTIN went to Glogau about 1800 and I believe he was there until he went to Breslau about 1816.

Finding information about his father Gedaliah will be a challenge..  Rabbinic texts might be source.

Stephen Falk
Point Roberts, WA, USA


KAREN SAUNDERS
 


Thank you - fantastic. What is the meaning/translation of  the word Dajan? It didn’t translate or i am just ignorant.
With many thanks.
Karen Saunders

On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 at 23:11, David Seldner <seldner@...> wrote:
There are 1.5 pages in the "Biographisches Handbuch der Rabbiner", I have copied and am pasting
the main information about his life here, there are references where you can find more about him.
Use DeepL or google to translate the text, there are more Tiktins in there, too. I recommend to
download the book if you want to know more.

1775 TIKTIN, Abraham, gen. Pätah. ha-Bayith, geb. 24. Dez. 1764 in Swarzędz (Schwersenz),
Großpolen, gest. 27. Dez. 1820 in Breslau. - Sohn des Gedalja aus Tykocin bei Białystok, des
„Dajan von Schwersenz“, und seiner Frau Freidel. Erziehung nach dem Tode des Vaters (1773)
durch die Ehemänner seiner Schwestern Jitte und Eidel, den Rb. Isaak-Mordechai b. Baruch in
Grodzisk (Grätz) und den Posener Dajan Jakob; nach seiner Heirat mit Esther Kuttner (Kutschinski),
Tochter des Aron K., lebt er 12 Jahre lernend u. lehrend bei seinen Schwiegereltern in Swarzędz,
ernährt sich vom Handel, versieht seit 1797 kurzzeitig auch das örtliche Rabbinat. Später
Rb. in Łęczyca (Luntschütz) in Russ.-Großpolen, 1803 Oberrb. in Glogau, übt dort bis zum Gesetz
von 1812 auch zivilrichterliche Funktionen aus; 12. Okt. 1816 „Oberlandesrabbiner bei der
Schlesischen Gemeinde“ mit Sitz in Breslau und 750 Tl. Gehalt; er galt bei seiner Anstellung als
ein Mann, der „nicht bloß die erforderlichen rabbinischen Kenntnisse besitzt und als rechtschaffen
bekannt ist, sondern zugleich auch befähigt ist, die erbaulichen Vorträge und Reden in der
Landessprache gehörig zu halten und die erforderlichen Eigenschaften besitzt, der ihm anvertrauten
Gemeinde ein liebevoller Führer und ein weiser Ratgeber zu sein“ (Lucas und Heitmann, S.
247f.). 1819 trägt er zu den ’Eläh divrē ha-berīth bei. Hatte kurz vor seinem Tode einen Ruf auf
das Fürther Oberrt. angenommen. Seine Frau erhielt in Breslau eine Pension von 400 Tl.

Good luck and best wishes!
--
David Seldner, Karlsruhe, Germany
seldner@...


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Hello. I would like to join to research info about my 4 x g grandfather Abraham ben Gedaliah Tiktin 1764 - 1820. With thx.


Irwin Keller
 

To Sydney Levine and other researchrs––

Beloved Rabbi Max Ticktin died nearly 5 years ago. This obituary gives the names of his daughters. You could try reaching out to them to see if they have any family history or lore in hand.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/rabbi-max-ticktin-yiddish-and-hebrew-literature-professor-at-gwu-dies-at-94/2016/07/06/198fe5ce-42f0-11e6-8856-f26de2537a9d_story.html

Irwin Keller
Penngrove, CA


Jeremy Lichtman
 

The pamphlet "The Oldest Jewish Families in Czestochowa" by Janusz Spyra contains numerous references to the Tiktin family that may be of use.

From the footnotes there, there are references to individuals in the family in the book "Biographisches Handbuch der Rabbiner",
ed. Michael Brocke and Julius Carlebach, Munich 2009 (BHR) I/2.

Specifically: "Biographical entries for Abraham (dec’d. 1820), Salomon (dec’d. 1843) and Gedalia (dec’d. 1886) Tiktin in BHR I/2, pp.
856–859."

The Gedalia mentioned above is the son of Abraham, born circa 1808 in Czestochowa, and evidently named after his grandfather.

It appears that the Lewkowicz > Kohn family of Czestochowa may be renamed Tiktins as well, as several members of that family occasionally used the name on documents.

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Jeremy Lichtman
Toronto, Canada


Adam Cherson
 

Hello,

Does the deep ancestry of R' Abraham ben Gedalye of Tiktin have something to do with the Maharam of Tiktin (https://www.geni.com/people/Rabbi-Meir-Halevi-Horowitz-Maharam-of-Tiktin/6000000000829746155) ?
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Adam Cherson


Jeremy Lichtman
 

R Meir was a Levi.

The Tiktin rabbinical family of SW Poland may have been Cohanim (anyone know for sure?).

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Jeremy Lichtman
Toronto, Canada


Adam Cherson
 

Hello,

Here is the entry from JVL (https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/tiktin)

"TIKTIN
, rabbinical family originating in Tykocin (Tiktin), near Bialystok, Poland. ABRAHAM BEN GEDALIAH (1764–1820) became a rabbi in his birthplace Schwersenz (Swarzędz), in Lęczyca, and from 1803 in *Glogau (in Silesia). In 1816 he was appointed Oberlandrabbiner of Silesia at Breslau. Of 12 rabbinic works, only his Petaḥ ha-Bayit was published (Dyhernfurth, 1820; republished 1910, Warsaw). His son SOLOMON (1791–1843) succeeded his father in the Breslau and Silesian rabbinate. He became involved in controversy with the Reform movement when, in 1836, he prohibited the publication in Breslau of M. Brueck's Reform des Judenthums (Nagy-Becskerek, 1848), and opposed two years later the appointment of Abraham *Geiger as assistant rabbi, preacher, and dayyan in Breslau. He and his son, Gedaliah, conducted a bitter campaign against Geiger, mustering Orthodox circles and having the support of the Prussian conservative bureaucracy and clergy; this struggle became a cause célèbre in both Jewish and gentile circles. Geiger was supported primarily by the patrician, educated Jewish leadership while Tiktin had the support of the majority of the community.

GEDALIAH (c. 1810–1886), Solomon's son, was elected rabbi of Breslau by the Orthodox faction in 1843; this election was confirmed in 1846, and in 1854 his nomination as Landrabbiner was confirmed, the government identifying his religious Orthodoxy with political loyalty. When Geiger left Breslau for Frankfurt in 1863, Gedaliah came to terms with his successor Manuel *Joel and a compromise was reached by which separate communal institutions were maintained for both Orthodox and Reform. HEINRICH (1850–1936), Gedaliah's son, was a philologist and Romanian grammarian."

 
Since there is a yDNA signature for the Maharam of TIktin family of Levite Rabbis you could easily determine whether your TIktins are connected to those Tiktins if you can obtain a yDNA result from one of your Tiktins. Please contact me privately if you need further assistance with such a research strategy.
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Adam Cherson


shirley@...
 

I believe that 'dajan' is 'dayan', rabbinic court judge.
Shirley Ginzburg
California


Dr. Ruth Leiserowitz
 

The files of the Jewish Community of Wroclaw are in the Jewish Historical Institute in Warsaw. Please try the link: https://www.jhi.pl/zbiory/inwentarze/synagogen-gemeinde-zu-breslau-gmina-zydowska-we-wroclawiu-1852-1944,439

Ruth Leiserowitz
Berlin / Warsaw