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Trying to obtain a 1922 birth certificate from Oradea (Nagyvarad), Romania #hungary #general #romania


Reinier
 

One of my family members, Georges (Gheorghe) Jakab, died at age twenty in the French Resistance.
This happened while his parents were interned in various French concentration camps. When Georges was buried, no family was present. He received a Christian burial with a Christian cross on top of his grave.

We finally found his grave last year, and have the intention to, among other things, remove the Christian cross and to add a Star of David instead. We also want to renew the text which includes his name. Unfortunately, the Hebrew name of Georges is unknown to us, and for this reason I am trying to obtain his birth certificate. Georges was born as Gheorghe Jakab in Oradea (Nagyvarad) on June 15, 1922. Can somebody perhaps help (or do you perhaps know someone else who can help) with this?

Below are two photos of his grave in France.



David Choukroun
 

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 05:00 AM, Reinier wrote:
Georges (Gheorghe) Jakab
@ Reiner,

Hello,
I can see a Georges Jakab into the Journal Officiel de la République Francaise


But the date is weird -- 01 Feb 1943 : it would mean he requested a french citizenship the same year he died.  - if we are lucky, a copy of his birth certificate might be recorded into this file.
Lets check first this is the right one.

Unfortunately, the right web site (SHD in Vincennes, France) is down those days. We have to wait to check if there is a file "as resistant".

Can you please indicate the location of the picture, the location of the death (and possibly the exact date) ?  It will help to search into the Press as well

Best regards
David

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David Choukroun
 

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 04:31 PM, David Choukroun wrote:
Gheorghe
@ Reiner

Dear Reiner,

I had a look to the usual french database for the soldier dead during WW2 here : https://www.memoiredeshommes.sga.defense.gouv.fr/fr/arkotheque/client/mdh/militaires_decedes_seconde_guerre_mondiale/index.php
Unfortunately without success

Is there more details available ?

regards
David

david.choukroun@...


shimona@...
 

Renier, I am copying a message from a good friend of mine whose family is from Oradea originally, then moving to France.  She has some good hints for finding the information that you need.  She says that you can write the Jewish community (link below) in English.  They are very helpful:

There is – or was a Jakab family from Nagyvarad – today Oradea, ten persons of that name were deported on May 3, 1944. I could let you have their names if it helps. I believe your best bet is contacting the Jewish community in Oradea such as it is. Let me find the link for you and think of other ways to help.

Doesn't the relative have a copy of his identity card? Hope all this is helpful.

https://www.facebook.com/ComunitateaEvreilorOradea/



Shimona Kushner



Peninah Zilberman
 

Hello,

Since its less than 100 yrs., the Archives don’t have copies of the registry books yet.

 

Write to the Jewish Community Center of Oradea

President Mr. Koppelman

Rabbi Shria

I am sure they will try and assist you on your mission

Definitely to change the cross into a Magen David

 

Good Luck Peninah

Oradea

preşedinte Felix Koppelmann

Str. Mihai Viteazu nr. 4, jud. Bihor

tel./ fax 0259/ 434. 843

e-mail: ceoradea_dasm@...

 

   

 

 

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