unknown towns near Mariampole #lithuania


Devorah Eisenbach
 

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My great grandfather's letters from Kalvaria, LIthuania in 1908-1914  mention two towns that we can't find סאחארישאק and  פאקירסנע. We think the transliteration of them would be Sacharishok and Fokirsena.
Has anyone heard of them or know where they are or there modern names?
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Devorah Eisenbach
Jerusalem, Israel
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Jill Whitehead
 

In 1908 to 1914, Kalvaria was part of Suwalki Gubernia in NE Poland - it did not go back into Lithuania until the Versailles WW1 Peace Agreement of 1919. Place names in the area tend to have Yiddish, Polish, Lithuanian and German variants - all variants were used, so you need to check these out.

I visited Kalvaria in the year 2000, and looked at Kalvarian migration to the UK in an edition of Landsmen from 2016.

The nearest places to Kalvaria include Mariampole, Vishtinetz (aka Vistytis aka Wistitten aka Wiestienetz)(where my family came from), Neustadt Scherwindt (aka Kurdikos Naumiestis), and Wilkiviskis. 

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK


Russ Maurer
 

The second one may be Pakirsniai, located about 12 miles southeast of Kalvaria. I don't have any suggestion for the other.

Russ Maurer
Pepper Pike, Ohio


Judith Singer
 

The US Library of Congress has detailed topographic maps of Poland from 1914 with a 1:100,000 scale. One example is at https://www.loc.gov/item/2021588980/. These maps show villages and hamlets not available on any other maps I've seen. The maps are on several different sheets because of the detailed scale and I'm not sure how you would find the sheet that contains Kalvaria. I assume the library staff can help you.

Individual sheets sometimes show up for sale on various online marketplaces. You could try searching for  - topographic map Kalvaria 1914 .

I found the relevant sheet for my ancestors home town in Lithuania and it was fascinating to see how many little settlements were shown and named, information that appeared nowhere else I'd seen. 

Judith Singer

searching CHARNEY and variations from Kavarskas, Lithuania

 


Hap Ponedel
 

Judith et al.

I copy my answer to Devorah yesterday here, to offer another look at this question:

I believe I have found at least Sacharishok on a 1915 map of the Kalwaria region of (then), the Russian Empire. On this map the place is called Zegaryszki, a very small place with 13 dwellings, barely even a village. It is maybe 8-10 miles south of Kalwaria. Here is a link to the map: http://easteurotopo.org/indices/zoom/zoomviewer.php?indexname=kdwrindex&displayname=Kalwarja&attribution=mapywig&year=1915&fileurl=KdwR_M24_Kalwarja_1915_400dpi.jpg&coordinates=M24
Here is a screenshot of the place on the map: 


This is what I believe to be the Google map link for Zegaryszki: https://www.google.com/maps/place/54%C2%B018'55.6%22N+23%C2%B010'44.4%22E/@54.315445,23.1767993,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0xc60c9279fa74b359!8m2!3d54.315445!4d23.178988
Also, the location of Pakirsniai is here:

Here is the Google map link: https://www.google.com/maps/place/54%C2%B023'21.1%22N+23%C2%B017'46.8%22E/@54.389188,23.2941563,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x862253330b850281!8m2!3d54.389188!4d23.296345
Pakirsniai does not appear on the 1915 map, thus it was also a very minuscule location or it was absorbed into another community, perhaps Michaliszki. Did the ancestor near or at this location per chance manage a tavern? I ask because the place (where I believe this location should be found on the map) is near two taverns that appear on the map.
  
Right above Michaliszki should be the place of Pakirsniai. Note the two symbols Krug along the road. These are taverns. 

Responding to Judith's suggestion to visit the Library of Congress, I would hope people visit http://easteurotopo.org/ first when looking for a historical map. I have scanned hundreds of maps at the LoC and collected thousands of others online and placed them at easteurotopo.org for the public to use. Just this week, several dozen more maps from the series we are looking at here were uploaded. 3,500 maps are viewable and downloadable for no charge. I also have a Contact/Help button which provides email to me for which I offer free assistance at finding and interpreting maps. The map we're looking at here offers a lot more information of historical value than the Google map.

Hap Ponedel
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Eugene, OR


Devorah Eisenbach
 

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Thank you so much for all your very helpful information.  It's beatiful and warming to be part fo a community of people so quick to give of their time and knowledge to help others. 
We hope to make parts of the letters available to others soon, G-d willing. They really paint a picture of Kalvaria in the early 1900's.
Thank you Jewishgen.org for helping us connect with our past!!
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Devorah Eisenbach
Jerusalem, Israel
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