USCIS Documents #records


Robert Hanna
 

All four of my grandparents and two of my great grandparents emigrated to the US from Eastern Europe between 1905 and 1914.  I was able to request records from USCIS for both my grandfathers as I had their file numbers.  I did not have the file number for my great grandfather so I requested a records search.  I paid the fees for all.  Eight months later I am still waiting.  I have requested updates and have been told that they are getting close.  My grandfathers were both naturalized and their naturalizations included my grandmothers.  I don't know whether or not my great grandfather ever applied for naturalization.  Does anyone know if there would be separate USCIS files for my grandmothers and my great grandmother or would their papers be included with their respective husbands?  Considering the long wait for responses from USCIS, if there are separate files, I don't want to waste any more time before applying for searches.
 
Robert Hanna
NYC
 
Researching:
Chanan/Hanan/Hanne (Warsaw); Blumenblat (Sarnaki); Karasik, Thomashow, Cohen (Babruysk); Rubinstein, Bunderoff, Pastilnik, Nemoyten, Diskin (Minsk)
 


blockmk@...
 

I paid for a search for my husbands grandfather just about the time Covid started and it took about 8 months with very little status info given.  I then paid for a copy of the records and just before I actually received them. Ancestry posted the files for PA Naturalizations (this was late 1930's).  Basically exact thing I got from USCIC except there copy was redacted.   I've also read and discovered that they are moving some of the files that involve people over 100 yrs old over to Kansas City Archives (National).   I've actually ordered two sets for people that arrived about that same time frame but did not apply until 1930/1940.  Both of these were women who supposedly would have been naturalized under their husbands. One of them even had a copy of a marriage license included.  The file from KC cost me $28.  The process is so much easier than the USCIS process.  I would look around in Ancestry and Family search to see if you can locate references and try the other methods before spending the $ for the USCIS file.  The record set on ancestry is  U.S., Index to Alien Cases Files at the National Archives at Kansas City, 1944-2003.  


Katherine Block
Canton, GA
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Howard Aronoff <howard6276@...>
 

RE: GRANDMOTHERS NATURALIZATION; this may be useful: https://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/1998/summer/women-and-naturalization-1.html

From above link:

New laws of the mid-1800s opened an era when a woman's ability to naturalize became dependent upon her marital status. The act of February 10, 1855, was designed to benefit immigrant women. Under that act, "[a]ny woman who is now or may hereafter be married to a citizen of the United States, and who might herself be lawfully naturalized, shall be deemed a citizen."

Later in the above link:

Happily, Congress was at work and on September 22, 1922, passed the Married Women's Act, also known as the Cable Act. This 1922 law finally gave each woman a nationality of her own. No marriage since that date has granted U.S. citizenship to any alien woman nor taken it from any U.S.-born women who married an alien eligible to naturalization.(11) Under the new law women became eligible to naturalize on (almost) the same terms as men. The only difference concerned those women whose husbands had already naturalized. If her husband was a citizen, the wife did not need to file a declaration of intention. She could initiate naturalization proceedings with a petition alone (one-paper naturalization). A woman whose husband remained an alien had to start at the beginning, with a declaration of intention. It is important to note that women who lost citizenship by marriage and regained it under Cable Act naturalization provisions could file in any naturalization court--regardless of her residence.(12)

Both of my Grandmothers were listed on my Grandfather's naturalization papers which were filed in 1915 and 1916. I believe that my Grandmothers never applied directly but that when my Grandfathers petitions were honored, they, as listed spouses, automatically became citizens. 

Howard Aronoff
Boynton Beach FL
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Myrna Waters
 

I recently heard a presentation on this subject given by Marian Smith to the JGSSN (JGS of Southern Nevada) via Zoom.  She is retired after 30 years working for the USCIS.  Perhaps you can contact the group or go to their website and see if you can contact her directly.  There was a handout along with the presentation that shows which records can be found at the various locations for such records, depending on when the immigration was and when the paperwork to become a US citizen was filed.  Good luck to you.
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Myrna (Slatnick) Waters
NJ/NY/FL USA

Researching:  SLEPACK (or similar)Belarus/Bialystok area; SLATNICK/SLOTNIK (or similar) Minsk/Puchovichi area of Russia from 1905/1914 to NY & Newark,NJ and Canada;  KURZMANN Jaslo, Poland and Drohobych, Ukraine area (both formerly in what was the Galician area of Austria prior to WWI), KURTZMAN in NY/Bronx and NJ/Newark from 1905/1910, SADOWSKY (or similar) from Belarus area of Russia/Bialystok 19th century to Newark,NJ 1905 or after.


David Harrison
 

The rules in Britain have been somewhat different and I expect that they differ elsewhere, but in a similar timeframe.  My Grandfather came to these shores in the late 1800s but did not apply for British citizen ship until about 1912.  On the document is shown his name and all the children but not his wife (who was included as being part of him.  I learnt this while searching the records some years ago.  It seems that as a result, she needed to apply for citizenship in her own within a year of his death. I doubt that she or the children knew this.  The fact that he died in May 1943 and she died in April 1944 which saved her (and the family) having this problem.  My other grandparents were both born here and did not have this problem.  I was lucky to be able to ask this question of a member of staff at The National Archive, he had to ask another member of staff.  Also, the Married Womans' Property Act did not cover this situation.

David Harrison,  Birmingham, England


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RE: GRANDMOTHERS NATURALIZATION; this may be useful: https://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/1998/summer/women-and-naturalization-1.html

From above link:

New laws of the mid-1800s opened an era when a woman's ability to naturalize became dependent upon her marital status. The act of February 10, 1855, was designed to benefit immigrant women. Under that act, "[a]ny woman who is now or may hereafter be married to a citizen of the United States, and who might herself be lawfully naturalized, shall be deemed a citizen."

Later in the above link:

Happily, Congress was at work and on September 22, 1922, passed the Married Women's Act, also known as the Cable Act. This 1922 law finally gave each woman a nationality of her own. No marriage since that date has granted U.S. citizenship to any alien woman nor taken it from any U.S.-born women who married an alien eligible to naturalization.(11) Under the new law women became eligible to naturalize on (almost) the same terms as men. The only difference concerned those women whose husbands had already naturalized. If her husband was a citizen, the wife did not need to file a declaration of intention. She could initiate naturalization proceedings with a petition alone (one-paper naturalization). A woman whose husband remained an alien had to start at the beginning, with a declaration of intention. It is important to note that women who lost citizenship by marriage and regained it under Cable Act naturalization provisions could file in any naturalization court--regardless of her residence.(12)

Both of my Grandmothers were listed on my Grandfather's naturalization papers which were filed in 1915 and 1916. I believe that my Grandmothers never applied directly but that when my Grandfathers petitions were honored, they, as listed spouses, automatically became citizens. 

Howard Aronoff
Boynton Beach FL
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