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ViewMate translation request - Hebrew #translation #slovakia


David Kennedy
 

I've posted a photo of a tombstone in Hebrew for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM86853
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much  
Dave Kennedy
Newcastle, Australia
 


kassells@...
 

Hi Dave, 

I'd like to relate to one aspect of the epitaph which, to my knowledge, belongs to Hungarian tradition only. 

The line which says :Sh[em] i[mo] Yudit i. e. the name of his mother was Yudit.
Sephardic Jews often mention the name of the mother of the deceased in the same line as the name of the father. 
Most Ashkenazi Jews do not mention the mother at all. In Hungary (in that aspect Slovakia is a country of Hungarian culture for the Jews) there is this special formula: His/Her mother was.... 
I asked a number of persons about the origin of this formula and could not obtain a satisfactory answer. The only suggestion that I couldn't check that this custom started with Neolog jewry.
I would appreciate comments from the group on this question  

Best regards, 
Laurent Kassel 
Moreshet  Israel 


David Kennedy
 

Hi Laurent,
Thanks for that elaboration. I am unfamiliar with their customs, so it is interesting to find out such details.
Henrik was born in Nagy Begany in Bereg county, now Ukraine. His wife Katarina Goldstein was born locally in Atrak (Horné Otrokovce), about 25 km NW of Nitra. DNA analysis confirms that they were both Ashkenazi.

Regards
Dave


Dubin, David M. MD
 

Hi all
In reply to the reply about the tradition of having mothers’ names on tombstones, the tradition seems centered in Bratislava (Pressburg). It is found on nearly all stones in the new orthodox cemetery (which accepted burials starting in about 1850). It reportedly predates the arrival there of the famed Rabbi Moshe Schreiber, the “Chasam Sofer.”
In fact the stones in that cemetery only rarely include fathers’ names. The thought was that the departed were on their way to the next world, the “world of truth (עולם האמת in Hebrew),” and since paternity could not be 100% certain in those days, only the mother’s name was etched on tombstones. 
David Dubin
Teaneck, New Jersey