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What would be a full set of naturalization records in NYC from the 1850's? #records


dmjacobs@...
 

I have been able to find the Declaration of intent (19 April 1850) and Oath (2 July 1843) as components of the naturalization record of my 2nd great grandfather Charles Schiff.  They correspond to the records referenced in the index to naturalization records - dates, bundle number and record number – all on Ancestry.  Neither the index card nor the records contain the port of arrival or date of arrival.  Is it likely that there are any other naturalization records that would give me any more information?  The Court was the Superior Court of New York County; would other paper records still be in an archive someplace? (Assuming we can travel someday!) (And I have been unable to find any manifest with his name for the period before 1846 when his first son was born in NY.)


DMJacobs


Sally Bruckheimer
 

"I have been able to find the Declaration of intent (19 April 1850) and Oath (2 July 1843) as components of the naturalization record of my 2nd great grandfather Charles Schiff.  They correspond to the records referenced in the index to naturalization records - dates, bundle number and record number – all on Ancestry.  Neither the index card nor the records contain the port of arrival or date of arrival. "

My family also came very early. All you get is "I give up allegiance to the King of ___"

I always write in response to people who tell us that all naturalizations come with Certificates of Arrival and name changes and such, that not all do. 

I did however get the naturalization papers for a cousin who naturalized in 1906 (the last in the Niagara County Court), and this Russian Jew said he was born in Marseilles! It was amazing, as was getting the actual paper in my hand to look at.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ


Barbara Ellman
 

Early naturalization records have very little information on them.  Basically, what is on the index card is pretty much it.
 
Not to say that you shouldn't look for the actual papers.  They can be rather humorous.  I had one that went on for 6 pages on what a great guy he was without any genealogical information.
 
I have never seen a ship's name on any of the documents I've seen.
 
Good luck
 
 

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Barbara Ellman
Secaucus NJ USA
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Steve Stein
 

On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 01:26 PM, Barbara Ellman wrote:
"6 pages on what a great guy he was without any genealogical information"
Barbara,

For those of us who have more than one SOB relative, "what a great guy he was" could be considered genealogical information.

Steve Stein