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Yiddish Names-Kadshevitz Family From Anyksciai, Lithuania #names


crystalbrown3431@...
 

My late mother in law left us a box of family history notes regarding her Kadishevitz grandparents and g grandparents who were from the shtetl of Anyksciai, Lithuania. Several of the names in her notes  do not generate any hits when searching the JGen databases nor do they  come up on Ancestry. I have attached a few pages. The notes are based upon her recollections from discussions with her mother Sarah Finn nee Kadishevitz, who was born in Anyksciai circa 1884 and emigrated to the USA in the early 1900s, eventually settling in and/or around Boston.

The specific names we would like help with are:
  • Fatta Yosha/Yosa
  • Mooma Minda
  • Videchki
  • Sana Nacha
Thank you for any help/suggestions.

Richard B. Brown
Glastonbury, CT


David Shapiro
 

I can't help with these names, but my great grandfather's sister, Ita Beila (or perhaps Beila Ita) SHAPIRO from Anyksciai married Yisroel Yehuda KADISHEVITZ (son of Yechezkel). The couple moved to South Africa, and from there they moved with their daughter Rochel to Palestine and were among the founders of the city of Rechovot. Rochel married Herzl MAKOV. At least one son moved to the US and shortened the name to KADISH and lived first in Westchester County and later in Connecticut.

Also, the last rabbi of Anyksciai was Rabbi Kalonymus KADISHEVITZ, who is quoted in the rabbinical work Zecher Yitzchok.

David Shapiro
Jerusalem


David Shapiro
 

I would just add that "Mooma" is Yiddish for aunt.

David Shapiro
Jerusalem


Carol Gurstelle
 

I also have Kadshevitz from Anyksciai on my family tree.  My great-great grandmother, Khia Malke was married to a Kadshevitz (first name unknown).  It was a second marriage for her; she and her first husband divorced after she refused to join him in New York.  From the second marriage, in know of one child, Max, born 1878.  He later emigrated to the US and settled in Superior, Wisconsin.

Carol Gurstelle
Roseville, MN


crystalbrown3431@...
 

Carol
I have Max and his wife Miriam Kaner in the tree. While this is very much a work kin progress, I believe he was 1st cousin to my wife's Grandma Sarah Finn nee Kadishevitz via her father Moshes/Moshe Kadishevitz. A translation of his marker is posted on View Mate.

Richard B. Brown
Glastonbury, CT 


crystalbrown3431@...
 

David
I am pretty sure they are all related but the Kadishevitz family of Anikst was very  large with much duplication of given names. My wife's Grandma Finn' nee Kadishevitz 1st Cousin, Ida Tamara Kadishevitz married her 1st cousin who was known in Boston as Isaac Kadish (1878-1937). His Hebrew name was Yechezkel the son of Shimon. Ida's grandfather  was Fayvish Kadishevitz, so presumably Isaac's was also Fayvish. My current thinking is that Fayvish was the son of Khatskel who appears to be the patriarch of a large number of the Kadishevitz clan and maybe the patriarch of them all.

Rabbi Kalman Kadeshevitz is believed to be the second cousin to my wife's grandma Finn nee Kadishevitz. Because of his position as the rabbi of Anikst, I am guessing that somewhere there is a definitive genealogy for him. I have not seen it but would love to.

Richard B. Brown
Glastonbury, CT


Carol Gurstelle
 

Thanks Richard.  It is the same person and I have the information about his birth and death dates.  He and Mary had at least four children: Ida, Morris, Lawrence, and Louise.

Carol Gurstelle
Roseville, MN


Michele Lock
 

I have a question about the rabbi referenced above - Is Rabbi Kalonymus Kadishevitz the same person as Rabbi Kalman Kadishevitz, or are these two different persons?
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Michele Lock

Lock/Lak/Lok and Kalon in Zagare/Joniskis/Gruzdziai, Lithuania
Trisinsky/Trushinsky/Sturisky and Leybman in Dotnuva, Lithuania
Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania
Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland
Lavine/Lewin/Levin in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Vilna gub., Belarus


crystalbrown3431@...
 

Michele

Typically I see the Anyksciai rabbi's name spelled as Kalman Yitzhak Kadishevitz and  I believe he was the only Anikst rabbi of that name.   I suspect that Kalman and Kalonymus are one and the same.

Richard Brown
Glastonbury, CT


David Shapiro
 

It is the same rabbi. Kalman is short for Kalonymus.

It you search for Anyksciai on the ALD you will see that all the families we have mentioned are there - Kadishevitz, Shapiro, Finn, Jaffe. They were all interrelated. There is an Anyksciai project on Family Tree DNA. If you tested there you should join, and maybe we will be able to untangle things.

David Shapiro


Henry Carrey Boston,MA . Carey/Kirzhner/Berestyaner , Belous , Isenberg - Lutsk ; Postolov/Herman/Kolovsky-Zhitomir
 


How about this : 

Fetter Yoshe/Yoshke =  Uncle Josh/Joe ; Fetter = Uncle Yoshe is usually Yehoyshue (Joshua) and less often Yoysef Joseph

Mume Minde/Minna/Mindl = Aunt Minnie   Mume = Aunt . 

Sana Necha = Necha is short for Nechame female variant of Nochum . Sana is more problematic . At first , I thought it was Sara , misspelled . But I see that the "n" is very clear . Two other theories : It is a variation of the Russian name Sonye ( Sophie/Sylvie/Sarah in the US) . Or unlike Fetter and Mume (Yiddish words for Uncle and Aunt) , " Sana" is a word in another foreign language designating a familial relationship . You might try using google translate to see if anything comes up . 

In my opinion, Videchkl is  a surname . Your informant couldn't remember her first name and just used her last name to refer to the second wife , Minnie and Joe's mother .

I also note that in the notes a Yedda is mentions . I think the name is Yetta which is usually Etta in the US although my cousin Yettie was known as Josephine . 

Hope this helps . 
Henry H. Carrey


Henry Carrey Boston,MA . Carey/Kirzhner/Berestyaner , Belous , Isenberg - Lutsk ; Postolov/Herman/Kolovsky-Zhitomir
 

Another idea : Sana Nacha is  a man's name : Sana nickname for Nosn/Nathan . Nacha nickname for Nachman, Nochum or Menachem possibly Max, Mendl , Mandy in the US . So, his name would be Nosn-Nachman original and anything from Nathan to Max or something totally different in the US!!  You can check names in Ancestry.com . Genealogy Tool Kit , Jewish Resources . Jewish given names database . Another place to look is Avotaynu magazine . They have an excerpt from a book on their website  that you can look at which has many male and female names . The original Jewish Given Names database in Jewish Gen is a little harder to use , but also can be helpful to search names from Europe. 
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Henry H. Carrey


Henry Carrey Boston,MA . Carey/Kirzhner/Berestyaner , Belous , Isenberg - Lutsk ; Postolov/Herman/Kolovsky-Zhitomir
 


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Another idea : Sana Nacha as male for Nosn - Nachman . Sana nickname for Nosn/Nathan . Nacha nickname for Nachman / Nochum/Menachem = Max/Mendel/Mandy/Nathan etc.  When I looked at your document , it doesn't specify male or female . I was looking for female names at first . 
To look up names you can use : Ancestry.com>Support>genealogy toolkit>Jewish Resources>Jewish Given Names database . There is a shortcut but I haven't figured it out yet . Also, the magazine Avotaynu publishes a book about names and the online extract has hundreds of male and female variations of names used by Jews in Eastern Europe. Lastly , Jewish Gen still houses Prof Estersons Jewish Given Names Database , although it is a little harder to use . 
Henry H. Carrey


Gary Gershfield
 

Wow!

My maternal grandmother's maiden name was Kadishevitz. The family lived in Kupiskis, but prior to that, her ancestors lived in Anyksciai.

In Lithuania, it was often spelled, Kadyshevich.

When my grandmother and her siblings came to NY, they changed it to Kadish.

Best Regards,

Gary Gershfield

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From: crystalbrown3431@...
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Subject: [JewishGen.org] Yiddish Names-Kadshevitz Family From Anyksciai, Lithuania #names

My late mother in law left us a box of family history notes regarding her Kadishevitz grandparents and g grandparents who were from the shtetl of Anyksciai, Lithuania. Several of the names in her notes  do not generate any hits when searching the JGen databases nor do they  come up on Ancestry. I have attached a few pages. The notes are based upon her recollections from discussions with her mother Sarah Finn nee Kadishevitz, who was born in Anyksciai circa 1884 and emigrated to the USA in the early 1900s, eventually settling in and/or around Boston.

The specific names we would like help with are:
  • Fatta Yosha/Yosa
  • Mooma Minda
  • Videchki
  • Sana Nacha
Thank you for any help/suggestions.

Richard B. Brown
Glastonbury, CT
Attachments:


crystalbrown3431@...
 

Henry
Thank you for all the thoughts. I believe you are correct specific to Fatta Yosa and Mooma Minnie.
With respect to Videchki, I need to dig in more. If it is a surname I should be able to find it-to date I have not. We also have an in law with the given name Vikhna living in Debeikiai, a nearby village.

Sana Nacha- There is a bit more to the story that I have not shared previously. My wife's great-grandfather  Moses Kadishevitz was married to "Jenny" Garber. Of course Jenny was just the Boston anglicized version of her Yiddish name. For years I have thought her Yiddish name may have been Chana. I no longer believe that. I now feel it was 'Sana' or some derivative and that Nacha was indeed a nickname derived from Nachame, hence her Yiddish name would have been Sana Nacha.

Now Sana Natcha's daughter Sara Finn nee Kadishevitz, would have been telling the family history  to my late mother in law in Boston. Sara could read and write Yiddish but not English; my mother-in law could read and write English, but not Yiddish, so the potential for confusion is there. But the diagram below is, I believe Father=Moses/Mother = Sana Nacha and the 5 children and their spouses below.
Some of the back up:








Sana Nacha Kadishevitz, aka Jenny Garber-Anyksciai Lith, circa 1890.
Widowed when Moses died in his 30s, she supported her family selling
chickens.

Richard Brown
Glastonbury, CT







David Lewin
 

How very refreshing to see that for once the earlier message to which Gary replied, is quoted in his answer!

Bring back the old and beloved Jewishgen !!!

David Lewin
London


At 20:22 12/03/2021, Gary Gershfield via groups.jewishgen.org wrote:
Wow!

My maternal grandmother's maiden name was Kadishevitz. The family lived in Kupiskis, but prior to that, her ancestors lived in Anyksciai.

In Lithuania, it was often spelled, Kadyshevich.

When my grandmother and her siblings came to NY, they changed it to Kadish.

Best Regards,

Gary Gershfield

gmgkpc@...


-----Original Message-----
From: crystalbrown3431@...
To: main@...
Sent: Mon, Mar 8, 2021 7:32 pm
Subject: [JewishGen.org] Yiddish Names-Kadshevitz Family From Anyksciai, Lithuania #names

My late mother in law left us a box of family history notes regarding her Kadishevitz grandparents and g grandparents who were from the shtetl of Anyksciai, Lithuania. Several of the names in her notes  do not generate any hits when searching the JGen databases nor do they  come up on Ancestry. I have attached a few pages. The notes are based upon her recollections from discussions with her mother Sarah Finn nee Kadishevitz, who was born in Anyksciai circa 1884 and emigrated to the USA in the early 1900s, eventually settling in and/or around Boston.

The specific names we would like help with are:
  • Fatta Yosha/Yosa
  • Mooma Minda
  • Videchki
  • Sana Nacha
Thank you for any help/suggestions.

Richard B. Brown
Glastonbury, CT
Attachments:


David Shapiro
 

Keep in mind that Litvaks pronounced the Hebrew-Yiddish letter shin as 's'. For example, my grandfather's brother was named for his grandfather Yeshaia Shapiro (from Anyksciai) but he was called Saia (in English - Cy). Jenny is often an Americanization of the Yiddish 'Sheina' which for Litvaks becomes 'Seina' - not far from Sana.

David Shapiro
Jerusalem


Larry Gaum
 

Yeshiah is also pronounced Shiah ( Shi- Yeh). My grandfather was called Sam in English.
Larry Gaum
Toronto, Canada


mvayser@...
 

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 10:27 PM, <crystalbrown3431@...> wrote:
With respect to Videchki, I need to dig in more. If it is a surname I should be able to find it-to date I have not.
This is likely a last name Videtzkiy. There are a number of results on Yad Vashem for this last name, including in Lithuania: https://yvng.yadvashem.org/index.html?language=en&s_id=&s_lastName=videtzkiy

Mike Vayser


crystalbrown3431@...
 

With respect to Videchki, I need to dig in more. If it is a surname I should be able to find it-to date I have not.
This is likely a last name Videtzkiy. There are a number of results on Yad Vashem for this last name, including in Lithuania: https://yvng.yadvashem.org/index.html?language=en&s_id=&s_lastName=videtzkiy

Mike Vayser

MIke
While I have always assumed it was a given name, searches for similar names produce a long list of surnames including  Videtsky/Videckis/Viditski/Videtzkai, although none are noted as being from Anyksciai.
I think at this time I am going to assume it is a surname and that  Videchki came to Anyksciai from another town.  Any spelling differences  can be reasonably attributed to language barriers, accent,  memory and time.

Thank you to all of you for your excellent insights!

Richard Brown
Glastonbury, CT